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		<title>By: Depleted Cranium &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Little Dude From the Moon at TAM 8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Depleted Cranium &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Little Dude From the Moon at TAM 8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Adam Savage. That snooty, nasal, sharp whine with an Australian accent was hard not to recognize, especially as I&#8217;ve seen plenty of his videos before. Apparently he came all the way from Australia to try to get up in the face of those who he [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Adam Savage. That snooty, nasal, sharp whine with an Australian accent was hard not to recognize, especially as I&#8217;ve seen plenty of his videos before. Apparently he came all the way from Australia to try to get up in the face of those who he [...]</p>
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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbuzz0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, it was a little scary.   The dude didn&#039;t cause any trouble besides just heckling and eventually after he tried for about the 10th time to get up in Phil Plait&#039;s face, the other attendees did a good job of getting between him and discretely keeping him back.   We just talked like he wasn&#039;t there as he whined in the background.
 
I could not believe when he arrived.   I knew his nasal, whiny Australian voice as soon as I heard him.

My fear was that he would try to cause more physical problems or do something nutty like rush the stage refuse to shut up.    These guys have a history of that, getting punched after physically blocking Buzz Aldrin from leaving a hotel to go back to his car or trying to shove Alan Bean or Neil Armstrong.   (classy, you know, it really proves how brave you are when you can start trying to assault an 86 year old man with arthritis who is just trying to attend a space-exploration dinner or something)

The fact that he came from Australia also made me a little worried.   I figured, if you come that far and spend that much, you won&#039;t want to leave without a good story to tell or some dramatic event on film.

When I recognized him I informed two of the staff members I was near about his history and let them know to tell security to keep a close eye on him.   Luckily, no further measures were needed and he didn&#039;t get too physical or crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, it was a little scary.   The dude didn&#8217;t cause any trouble besides just heckling and eventually after he tried for about the 10th time to get up in Phil Plait&#8217;s face, the other attendees did a good job of getting between him and discretely keeping him back.   We just talked like he wasn&#8217;t there as he whined in the background.</p>
<p>I could not believe when he arrived.   I knew his nasal, whiny Australian voice as soon as I heard him.</p>
<p>My fear was that he would try to cause more physical problems or do something nutty like rush the stage refuse to shut up.    These guys have a history of that, getting punched after physically blocking Buzz Aldrin from leaving a hotel to go back to his car or trying to shove Alan Bean or Neil Armstrong.   (classy, you know, it really proves how brave you are when you can start trying to assault an 86 year old man with arthritis who is just trying to attend a space-exploration dinner or something)</p>
<p>The fact that he came from Australia also made me a little worried.   I figured, if you come that far and spend that much, you won&#8217;t want to leave without a good story to tell or some dramatic event on film.</p>
<p>When I recognized him I informed two of the staff members I was near about his history and let them know to tell security to keep a close eye on him.   Luckily, no further measures were needed and he didn&#8217;t get too physical or crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: DV82XL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DV82XL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Merde.&lt;/i&gt; It&#039;s one thing when these nutbars show up in threads like this on the web, another altogether when they show up in the flesh. Were I American, I would try and see if I could have this guy put on your &#039;no-fly list&#039; as a potential terrorist before he show up some place with a gun or a dynamite vest. No country should have to put up with foreign agitators showing up on their shore calling everyone in the nation a fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Merde.</i> It&#8217;s one thing when these nutbars show up in threads like this on the web, another altogether when they show up in the flesh. Were I American, I would try and see if I could have this guy put on your &#8216;no-fly list&#8217; as a potential terrorist before he show up some place with a gun or a dynamite vest. No country should have to put up with foreign agitators showing up on their shore calling everyone in the nation a fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbuzz0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 02:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy who made this video has made (at last count) 391 videos claiming to disprove the moon landing.   He&#039;s very very nutty.

Also, he showed up at TAM-8 and heckled Adam Savage and tried to get all up in his face and to confront Phil Plait.   Phil, as you might imagine, was quite civil to a point.   After he got a too nutty and started calling Phil a lair and a shrill for the government, Phil finally told him he was not interested in conversing any further.

He came all the way from Australia - obviously he is committed (and also should be committed)  

I first recognized his voice when he tried to heckle Adam about the Mythbusters Moon Landing Special.   I couldn&#039;t believe he was there!   I&#039;m just glad he did not get violent, because honestly, this guy is very off balance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy who made this video has made (at last count) 391 videos claiming to disprove the moon landing.   He&#8217;s very very nutty.</p>
<p>Also, he showed up at TAM-8 and heckled Adam Savage and tried to get all up in his face and to confront Phil Plait.   Phil, as you might imagine, was quite civil to a point.   After he got a too nutty and started calling Phil a lair and a shrill for the government, Phil finally told him he was not interested in conversing any further.</p>
<p>He came all the way from Australia &#8211; obviously he is committed (and also should be committed)  </p>
<p>I first recognized his voice when he tried to heckle Adam about the Mythbusters Moon Landing Special.   I couldn&#8217;t believe he was there!   I&#8217;m just glad he did not get violent, because honestly, this guy is very off balance.</p>
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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbuzz0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not[quote comment=&quot;20468&quot;]I have gotten together a lot of evidence, with the help of other investigators online and we&#039;re working to soon put it all out and show the facts of this and hopefully eventually it will be enough NASA will have no choice but admit it after 40 years.

One person I know found that an astronaut slipped up and said some things he should not have in an interview.

He found the words in a book in a library and here they are.

Stuart Roosa ws the name of an astronaut who died mysteriously when he was only 61 years old, which seems a bit suspicious because he also said some things that ended up being printed that he could not take back.
[/quote]

Uh, I think you have some errors there.  Stuart Roosa was the command module pilot for Apollo-14 and so he would not have been operating the camera on the lunar surface.  So either he&#039;s relating a story of the other astronauts or something or it&#039;s attributed to the wrong astronaut.

In any case, his death was not mysterious.  He died at 61, which was a bit young, but it was due to pancreatitis.   It&#039;s unfortunate that he didn&#039;t have longer life because of the condition, but not mysterious.  Alan Sheperd lived to his 70&#039;s and died of leukemia in the late 1990&#039;s - again, not really mysterious.  Edgar Mitchell is the other astronaut to land on the moon during Apollo-14 and still is very much alive.  

He&#039;s also gotten pretty nutty with his age.   He never claimed Apollo-14 was a hoax, but he has been nutty about some other things, like an interest in &quot;remote healing&quot; and some statements about UFO&#039;s.


In any case, the quote you posted, regardless of who may have said it, is very clearly a reference to the Apollo-12 camera incident and the fact that subsequently, the crew was careful because they didn&#039;t want to make the same mistake.  Chuck P beat me to it, but if you actually know the first thing about the Apollo program you&#039;d see straight through that.

After Apollo-12, they made a few changes in the cameras.  The same camera type was flown again, but they included a lens cap that could be easily placed on it if needed.  Apollo 13 and 14 also carried the Westinghouse Lunar Camera, the same one used on Apollo-11.  It was a backup and never used during the mission, but after Apollo-12, they didn&#039;t want to take chances of having no video again.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/why-do-people-make-videos-about-things-they-know-nothing-about/#comment-20468"><b>NotFooled said:</b></a></p>
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I have gotten together a lot of evidence, with the help of other investigators online and we&#8217;re working to soon put it all out and show the facts of this and hopefully eventually it will be enough NASA will have no choice but admit it after 40 years.</p>
<p>One person I know found that an astronaut slipped up and said some things he should not have in an interview.</p>
<p>He found the words in a book in a library and here they are.</p>
<p>Stuart Roosa ws the name of an astronaut who died mysteriously when he was only 61 years old, which seems a bit suspicious because he also said some things that ended up being printed that he could not take back.
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<p>Uh, I think you have some errors there.  Stuart Roosa was the command module pilot for Apollo-14 and so he would not have been operating the camera on the lunar surface.  So either he&#8217;s relating a story of the other astronauts or something or it&#8217;s attributed to the wrong astronaut.</p>
<p>In any case, his death was not mysterious.  He died at 61, which was a bit young, but it was due to pancreatitis.   It&#8217;s unfortunate that he didn&#8217;t have longer life because of the condition, but not mysterious.  Alan Sheperd lived to his 70&#8217;s and died of leukemia in the late 1990&#8217;s &#8211; again, not really mysterious.  Edgar Mitchell is the other astronaut to land on the moon during Apollo-14 and still is very much alive.  </p>
<p>He&#8217;s also gotten pretty nutty with his age.   He never claimed Apollo-14 was a hoax, but he has been nutty about some other things, like an interest in &#8220;remote healing&#8221; and some statements about UFO&#8217;s.</p>
<p>In any case, the quote you posted, regardless of who may have said it, is very clearly a reference to the Apollo-12 camera incident and the fact that subsequently, the crew was careful because they didn&#8217;t want to make the same mistake.  Chuck P beat me to it, but if you actually know the first thing about the Apollo program you&#8217;d see straight through that.</p>
<p>After Apollo-12, they made a few changes in the cameras.  The same camera type was flown again, but they included a lens cap that could be easily placed on it if needed.  Apollo 13 and 14 also carried the Westinghouse Lunar Camera, the same one used on Apollo-11.  It was a backup and never used during the mission, but after Apollo-12, they didn&#8217;t want to take chances of having no video again.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;20468&quot;]...&quot;We had basically the same camera as 12 had used and we were very careful with it.  Nobody wanted to inadvertently point it somewhere you didn&#039;t want it pointed, which could even just be a reflection that you might not notice, so when we moved the camera, we were very aware of how we moved it, and when handling it, just tried to keep it pointed right at the ground to be safe.&quot;

Does that seem suspicious?  What is he afraid of?

The camera would give it all away if someone moved it wrong and it showed the lights or the backdrop, so they pointed it at the ground.

Apollo-14 seems the rosetta stone of the apollo trickery, because it is the only apollo project that both of three men who said they went to the  moon are now dead.

There are clues that they were both having trouble keeping the seceret to themselves.[/quote]

He&#039;s talking about not pointing the camera at the sun you jackass.  On Apollo 12, the video camera was acedently pointed at the sun and it ruined the camera only a few minutes into the first EVA.  He doesn&#039;t want the same thing to happen on the next landing.  If you&#039;re interested in actually learning something about it you can read the transcript:
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a12/a12.html
This is really the best you comlud come up with?  How much time did you waste finding this &quot;rosetta stone?&quot;</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/why-do-people-make-videos-about-things-they-know-nothing-about/#comment-20468"><b>NotFooled said:</b></a></p>
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&#8230;&#8221;We had basically the same camera as 12 had used and we were very careful with it.  Nobody wanted to inadvertently point it somewhere you didn&#8217;t want it pointed, which could even just be a reflection that you might not notice, so when we moved the camera, we were very aware of how we moved it, and when handling it, just tried to keep it pointed right at the ground to be safe.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does that seem suspicious?  What is he afraid of?</p>
<p>The camera would give it all away if someone moved it wrong and it showed the lights or the backdrop, so they pointed it at the ground.</p>
<p>Apollo-14 seems the rosetta stone of the apollo trickery, because it is the only apollo project that both of three men who said they went to the  moon are now dead.</p>
<p>There are clues that they were both having trouble keeping the seceret to themselves.</p>
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<p>He&#8217;s talking about not pointing the camera at the sun you jackass.  On Apollo 12, the video camera was acedently pointed at the sun and it ruined the camera only a few minutes into the first EVA.  He doesn&#8217;t want the same thing to happen on the next landing.  If you&#8217;re interested in actually learning something about it you can read the transcript:<br />
<a href="http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a12/a12.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a12/a12.html</a><br />
This is really the best you comlud come up with?  How much time did you waste finding this &#8220;rosetta stone?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: NotFooled</title>
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		<dc:creator>NotFooled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have gotten together a lot of evidence, with the help of other investigators online and we&#039;re working to soon put it all out and show the facts of this and hopefully eventually it will be enough NASA will have no choice but admit it after 40 years.

One person I know found that an astronaut slipped up and said some things he should not have in an interview.   He found the words in a book in a library and here they are.

Stuart Roosa ws the name of an astronaut who died mysteriously when he was only 61 years old, which seems a bit suspicious because he also said some things that ended up being printed that he could not take back.

&quot;We had basically the same camera as 12 had used and we were very careful with it.  Nobody wanted to inadvertently point it somewhere you didn&#039;t want it pointed, which could even just be a reflection that you might not notice, so when we moved the camera, we were very aware of how we moved it, and when handling it, just tried to keep it pointed right at the ground to be safe.&quot;

Does that seem suspicious?  What is he afraid of?   The camera would give it all away if someone moved it wrong and it showed the lights or the backdrop, so they pointed it at the ground.


Apollo-14 seems the rosetta stone of the apollo trickery, because it is the only apollo project that both of three men who said they went to the  moon are now dead.   There are clues that they were both having trouble keeping the seceret to themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have gotten together a lot of evidence, with the help of other investigators online and we&#8217;re working to soon put it all out and show the facts of this and hopefully eventually it will be enough NASA will have no choice but admit it after 40 years.</p>
<p>One person I know found that an astronaut slipped up and said some things he should not have in an interview.   He found the words in a book in a library and here they are.</p>
<p>Stuart Roosa ws the name of an astronaut who died mysteriously when he was only 61 years old, which seems a bit suspicious because he also said some things that ended up being printed that he could not take back.</p>
<p>&#8220;We had basically the same camera as 12 had used and we were very careful with it.  Nobody wanted to inadvertently point it somewhere you didn&#8217;t want it pointed, which could even just be a reflection that you might not notice, so when we moved the camera, we were very aware of how we moved it, and when handling it, just tried to keep it pointed right at the ground to be safe.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does that seem suspicious?  What is he afraid of?   The camera would give it all away if someone moved it wrong and it showed the lights or the backdrop, so they pointed it at the ground.</p>
<p>Apollo-14 seems the rosetta stone of the apollo trickery, because it is the only apollo project that both of three men who said they went to the  moon are now dead.   There are clues that they were both having trouble keeping the seceret to themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Magic Donuts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magic Donuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;20404&quot;]So OBH, are satellites real, or are they fake?[/quote]

Of course they are!   And furthermore, every person who owns a satellite dish and set top TV box is either being paid off to lie and say that it does work at receiving tv from space or they might have a box that is full of video tape and simulates live television, somehow doing so for many years.

This is proof, the conspiracy is ENORMOUS!</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/why-do-people-make-videos-about-things-they-know-nothing-about/#comment-20404"><b>Finrod said:</b></a></p>
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So OBH, are satellites real, or are they fake?</p>
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<p>Of course they are!   And furthermore, every person who owns a satellite dish and set top TV box is either being paid off to lie and say that it does work at receiving tv from space or they might have a box that is full of video tape and simulates live television, somehow doing so for many years.</p>
<p>This is proof, the conspiracy is ENORMOUS!</p>
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		<title>By: Finrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So OBH, are satellites real, or are they fake?</description>
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		<title>By: Oh Bloody Hell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh Bloody Hell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know.   I know the space program of the US is a sham and probably most other countries are hiding a thing or two.  (after all don&#039;t they work with the US on space a lot anyway)??

How much is a sham is the big question.   Once you find someone is cheating you then have to find out how much they are cheating and I don&#039;t know yet.  We need to keep digging.  No man ever walked on the moon 100% sure.   Did they really send robots to mars?  Maybe maybe not.   They&#039;re special effects are probably better now.

Keep digging and keep demanding accountability.  We peal the layers off the onion.   You know what it will take though, is not just a few who ask the hard questions.  We need to start getting everyone to see the light and demand the answers.   What I want is them to come clean and admit it.  Admit that they fooled us with the moon, but I want them to come totally clean.  I want them to say where the studio was and how they did all the effects and whose decision it was to do it.   

I bet there is a lot of dirty laundry.  The best explanation why others didn&#039;t call NASa is that they have their own dirty secrets and would get outed just as bad.   Governments all lie.  I bet you&#039;d believe the Russians lied, right?   Well, they probably did too.  NASA is the biggest liar of all the the moon mission is the biggest lie, but there are other lies.   

Don&#039;t believe anything they say until the day they come clean about the whole thing and that will not happen until finally everyone waks up and demands it.  I think they will some day, because the facts are too great for everyone to ignore forever.  I bet they will wait much longer years though, because anyone who was involved could go to jail, so when the astronauts from it and the others involved in the tricks are all dead, then maybe the people working there might feel freedom to tell it like it is and maybe they&#039;ll feel tired of living a lie that their previous people made for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know.   I know the space program of the US is a sham and probably most other countries are hiding a thing or two.  (after all don&#8217;t they work with the US on space a lot anyway)??</p>
<p>How much is a sham is the big question.   Once you find someone is cheating you then have to find out how much they are cheating and I don&#8217;t know yet.  We need to keep digging.  No man ever walked on the moon 100% sure.   Did they really send robots to mars?  Maybe maybe not.   They&#8217;re special effects are probably better now.</p>
<p>Keep digging and keep demanding accountability.  We peal the layers off the onion.   You know what it will take though, is not just a few who ask the hard questions.  We need to start getting everyone to see the light and demand the answers.   What I want is them to come clean and admit it.  Admit that they fooled us with the moon, but I want them to come totally clean.  I want them to say where the studio was and how they did all the effects and whose decision it was to do it.   </p>
<p>I bet there is a lot of dirty laundry.  The best explanation why others didn&#8217;t call NASa is that they have their own dirty secrets and would get outed just as bad.   Governments all lie.  I bet you&#8217;d believe the Russians lied, right?   Well, they probably did too.  NASA is the biggest liar of all the the moon mission is the biggest lie, but there are other lies.   </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe anything they say until the day they come clean about the whole thing and that will not happen until finally everyone waks up and demands it.  I think they will some day, because the facts are too great for everyone to ignore forever.  I bet they will wait much longer years though, because anyone who was involved could go to jail, so when the astronauts from it and the others involved in the tricks are all dead, then maybe the people working there might feel freedom to tell it like it is and maybe they&#8217;ll feel tired of living a lie that their previous people made for them.</p>
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