“The Lost Book Of Nostradamus” (NotSoGood)
October 31st, 2007
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Well, I have to admit that I didn’t expect much when I saw the over-the-top promotions for the History Channel’s presentation of “The Lost Book Of Nostradamus.” Which was a “documentary” about a manuscript of writings and drawings which is believed to have been written by Nostradamus – that guy from France who said a lot of nonsensical things and claimed to see the future. But to be honest, it was considerably worse than I expected. I didn’t even watch the whole thing, because it made my brain hurt. But unless the part I missed was a good skeptical rebuttal, I’m going to say it was about the worst “history” programs I have ever seen.
First of all, all the “experts” were entirely convinced that Nostradamus was the real deal and could indeed see the future. (Unlike anyone else in history and defying the laws of science.) One or two said that there was no other conclusion that could be drawn. To be honest, I just can’t understand that. I cannot fathom that one could actually know all the writings of Nostradamus and all the interpretations and NOT realize that it’s just made up and bent to fit whatever history happens. The fact that they constantly fall back on claims like “He was using symbolism” or “Trying to explain what he saw in his historical context” really allows a lot of flexibility.
The most “amazing” thing shown was this image, which obviously is said to be an incredible prediction of 9/11:
Now the obvious: That that looks nothing like the World Trade Center. The tower is shown burning, but not having something crashed into it or falling. It’s shown with flames at all levels, unlike the WTC. And most glaring: There’s only one tower. Had this been a prediction of what he had actually seen in the future, don’t you think he’d have two towers? It looks suspiciously like a standard European castle’s tower with some flames, which no doubt happened from time to time, since much of the internal structure would have been wood.
But what if there had been no 9/11? What if the book was found in 1994 or 1998? Could an equally “amazing” prediction be drawn? I think so.
For one thing the tower looks distinctly old-worl, and is in flames. So perhaps it’s the Blitz on London or the firebombing of Germany. Many of the supposedly 9/11 predictions had previously been said to represent the Second World War. (Remember I said they were very flexible).
But what about this:
An oil well fire?
What about the towering mushroom cloud of a nuclear weapon?
Nuclear weapons were, after all, often tested on towers:
What about a rocket exploding?
Or even a zeppelin exploding next to a tower?
Here it looks almost like a tower:
Are these ideas a stretch? YES! But really any more than it showing 9/11? I don’t think so.
I didn’t really expect a balanced, skeptical or accurate account based on the sensational nature of the promotions and such. Obviously this was meant to get attention with outlandish claims. However, I was still highly disappointed, especially from the “History Channel,” a media outlet which is supposed to target a demographic which values stuff like history. Of course, the media is like any business: it operates on supply and demand hopefully more will demand actual factual coverage of history and thus it will be supplied – but I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one.
And finally, heres another image from the “Lost Book.” I’m sure there’s no shortage of things that can be read into it..
Hmm…
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December 27th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
where did u get those images of the “lost bla blah os nostradamusn”?? I want to see more!! lol…
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December 28th, 2008 at 12:27 am
Manuel Minino said:
The images are around the web. I am pretty sure they are not under a standard copyright because they come from a historic volume called “Vaticinia_Nostradami” which originated from the collection of the Italian National Library. Apparently there’s also a copy of this manuscript also in the collection of the Yale University library.
Here is an archive of various illustrations and print plates for the manuscript:
http://homepage.mac.com/sevenstarhand/Vatican_Evil_Illuminated/index2.html
Here are some others:
http://philipharris.blogspot.com/2007/12/lost-book-of-nostradamus-part-ii.html
http://www.crystalinks.com/lostbookofnostradamus.html
http://www.masalatalk.com/masalaboard/showthread.php?t=292020
http://www.epochtimes.com/b5/7/12/12/n1939842.htm
I believe some of these may also be prints from original engraved plates that are still in existence. Otherwise, the illustration may be a copy from the original manuscript that has been retraced and reinked to fix the faded color. Obviously, the original would not be on white paper as it tends to fade and get a yellow tinge with age.
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February 22nd, 2009 at 5:33 pm
nostradamus is hard to understand cause his work depends a lot of your own opinion. here’s mine…. it says of ending an era, eagle has his crown off, and the sand clock is empty. its probably slight fall of the USA cause you know from history that Russia grew stronger after that. Leo and snake barrier are constolations
over NY, and the rooster is another sign of a new dawn!!! i heard another prophecy that says “end of the USA starts when a black man becomes president” i dont think this is funny at all
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February 22nd, 2009 at 10:56 pm
hipnerotomahija said:
Nostradamus at best was a judicial astrologer who tried to find a pattern in past events and planetary positions and then project that as a predictor of future events. Thus he would look at the astrological chart for some major event and then make a generalized prediction of what would happen the next time the planets aligned in that way. This process is called comparative horoscopy. Naturaly these predictions were obscure because they were generalized.
I am in no way supporting this theory, only pointing out that Nostradamus was attempting a rational approach in a field that was regarded as a science at the time.
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February 23rd, 2009 at 1:09 am
hipnerotomahija said:
The rooster is also a symbol of masturbation, such a when it is being choked. The eagle is a symbol of USA and also of the US Mail, one of the world’s largest post offices. The snake clearly represents the “trowser snake” and the lack of sand in the hour glass represents time going down to zero.
I can only conclude that this prediction is of the rise of internet pornography. Before the internet, if you wanted to whack it to dirty pictures, you had to use the mail to order your smut and this could take some time, possibly only resulting in one magazine coming each month.
Now, with the rise of the internet, the post office has lost its crown and the pornography can be delivered instantly (no time expended). Thus the eagle has lost its crown and the rooster shall be choked, even as the trouser snake comes out to play.
That is obviously the true meaning of this prophetic vision.
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July 21st, 2009 at 11:10 am
hi i wanna know about nostradamus and his thinking or expectation for twenty first century.
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July 22nd, 2009 at 12:28 am
akash giri said:
Nostradamus was crazy or a fraud, his ‘works’ are nothing but a crock.
Now you know everything that is relevant about Nostradamus
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July 22nd, 2009 at 8:15 pm
akash giri said:
Nostordamus said a lot of things that were highly symbolic, involved a lot of poetic babble and generally didn’t make a lot of sense in their literal form. If you use enough license you can pretty easily make historical events fit them.
Some of his writings that have been hailed as proof he forsaw 9/11 had previously been used as proof he forsaw the Blitz attack on London. Both of them involved fire and stuff flying and whatnot. If you twist them around and declare certain metaphors to mean something else, you can turn them into proof he forsaw the use of napalm in Vietnam or nuclear tests or the Texas City Disiaster or whatever you want.
It comes down to a simple matter of taking whichever parts as literal and which as figurative as necessary to make the statement fit a given event.
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September 9th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
I would have to totally agree with the sceptacsm of some of these blog authors. Everything I have seen on any of the Nostrodamus shows, or appocolypse shows that use his reference, has been highly speculative. As the origianal blog author also mentioned,”First of all, all the “experts” were entirely convinced that Nostradamus was the real deal and could indeed see the future. (Unlike anyone else in history and defying the laws of science.) “, most of the views are supremely askewed, or if thats too strong, biased. One good blatently obvious example would be from the Nostradamus:2012 show on History Channel; While quoting a quatrain about on a winter solstice and then again in the spring solstice a city would be in a swamp and surrounded by crystals, (VERY PARAPHRASED!) one of the experts went on to compare it to hurricane Katrina. Wasnt that October? Nowhere near the winter soltice? And where was the spring follow up?
Just use good judgement and common sense when dabbling in any of these End of Days conspiracies or theories.
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September 10th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
The first tower wasn’t interrupted as the twin tower, it symbolizes the end of the world. I am not saying the predictions are correct or incorrect but when you are bashing something have the correct information, or you end up looking stupid.
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September 11th, 2009 at 12:19 am
Georgina said:
Where does it say that? I’ve seen plenty of claims that it shows 9/11. It’s very easy to make these things “Symbolize” whatever you want them to. Why does a burning tower symbolize anything other than a burning tower?
I could just as easily say it symbolizes the election of Bill Clinton followed by George W Bush and then Barak Obama. Does it look like that? No.. but less so than the “end of the world”
With Nostradamus the same things are said to symbolize various things and are rehashed to fit the latest events. The same writings that many said were describing the London Blitz later were said to describe the Oklahoma City bombing and then 9/11.
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September 11th, 2009 at 1:20 am
Why so much damn fatalism in contemporary society?
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January 6th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
As is stated in the special, it might not have been Nostradamus drawing these pictures; maybe he was describing what he saw to his son, and his son is painting his descriptions. I believe that final illustration is Nostradamus looking into the future and accidentally stumbling upon a re-run of Wheel of Fortune.
He described three people around what is clearly a “Wheel of Fortune” in various colors. A hand comes down and spins the wheel (Nostradamus has no idea what “film editing” is, remember?) while a beauty turns something over. An annoying **** is crowing at this people to tell them that they have gone bankrupt or lose a turn. Oh, and there are also prizes–but apparently the prizes were drawn as lions, snakes, and crystal balls.
That one was EASY!
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April 19th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
……To all the brothers around the world: You are all so smart and so extremely intellingent, but please do not try to interpret the book of revealation, the images of the lost book of nostradamus and nostradamus’s prophecies for you know nothing. You will only damage your reputations in the end because your interpretations will never come true. the book of revealation will never be fulfilled in your eyes. you will never ever see the anti-christ, the rapture, and the armegedon you’ve talked about, not even in a millions years from now, trust me for I speak the truth. If you disagree with me you can mark my words down in the history book for all your childrens to see. You are so smart and so intellingent and you know so many things, indeed. But, you have closed your bright mind to the truth and you want nothing to do with the truth therefore you will die without knowing the truth. I am sorry to say this to you , but the third secret of fatima, the images of the lost book of nostradamus ..especially the images 66-72 are so so easy to understand a cape man like me have no trouble understanding them at all and I know exaxtly the time and date is going to happen and yet none of you seem to understand them . many of you were be abled to interpret and will be able to interpret some of nostradamus’s prophecies, but most of his prophecies none of you brothers will be abled to interpret them. Let me clear some of your interpretations…the burning tower on nostradamus’s drawing had nothing to do with the 9/11 twin towers. the century x quartrain 72.. the terror in the sky had nothing to do with airplane. the king of mongol had nothing to with Bin laden. ok. I know the truth and I want to tell you the truth, but I know you too well, you will not open your ears to the truth, so I will leave them alone…But I tell you the truth , if you are abled to understand the true meaning of the visions of the third secret of fatima like the palm of your hand and know the exact time and date when it is going to happen then you will abled to interpret many of thse things, otherwise it will be some of the greastest mistery for you….To tell you the truth, brothers and sisters around the world…the clock is ticking-the hours are approaching fast before the rooster will crow, the peacot will flip the sand of time to begin, the father will has no choices bot to pulls the handle to open the dam’s gate to flooded the lions and his prides. Oh no, father, if you do that the water will surely flooded the inside of your garden too, many of yout sons and daughters will lose their life. Oh brothers and sisters, our father says it was our fault We were the caused of all of these things. Our father was so angry at you and me for not being a good boys and girls. From now on, please be a very good boys and girls and obey our father laws, ok , brothers and sisters. Oue father was so angry at you and me because we were so bads and evils we kept fighting and killing each others and we kept pulling the lions tails so hard and now the lionss got so angry , one of the liom became the leader and they started to killed many, many people and destroying many, many cities as we speak. oh no, 200 millions of them, what should we do?. oh thanks god the gate is tightly shut the lions can not enter into our garden. Oh no, winds, fires and waters is everywhere, what should we do, oh brothers. Tree12@myemail.con
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April 19th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Oh brother…
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April 19th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
DV82XL said:
Tree2012 is at least learning some new skills. The first time he tried to submit that comment he entered the text into the Name field. I see Doc must have deleted that.
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April 19th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
Finrod said:
Yeah, it was causing a problem with the RSS feed and taking up most of the comments field in the admin pannel. I regarded it as being basically spam.
Maybe next time around he can learn how to use paragraphs too.
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April 20th, 2010 at 4:53 am
Manuel Minino said:
…..To all the brothers around the world:..you are all so smart and so extremely intellingent but you have closed your eyes, and ears to the truths and now you know nothing at all, that’s why you kept saying this and that to him and his prophecies. but if you were abled to understand his drawings and his prophecies like I do, You would,.”PRAISE” him. and said, how in the world did he knows all this…it is imposible!! To tell you the truth, .the third secret of fatima and most of his drawings are so so easy to umderstand , a cape man like me can (do it) interpret them with eye closed. the tree is speaking to you,brothers. Tree12@myemail.com
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April 25th, 2010 at 5:29 am
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April 25th, 2010 at 5:44 am
To the guy who published this article. Can you deleted my comment, tree2012 #14, please. I decided to delete it, thank you. tree2012.
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April 27th, 2010 at 5:11 am
Oh you muslams thugs, you thought you were doing God’s deeds by killing the Jews and the innocennt people and when you die, God will rewards you for your good works and sent you to a place called,”Paradis”, To tell you the truth, the only paradise placed you will see is a place we called,”Hell”. Can you muslams not understand the images pf the losr book of nostradamus?. Little did you know, but your Islamic’s bothers thugs who lived outside of our garden’s wall , where the man who is holding the giant green snake lived..the image above, theirs world is about to be anniliated and they, too, are about to be sent to a placed called,”hell.” By the Prince whose home is the planrt,”Sun”.
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