Satellites Do not Exist – Literally the Dumbest Video I Have Ever Seen

May 31st, 2015
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This video is breathtaking….




 

Yeah.  Really.  People believe that.  It takes the whole moon landing hoax to the next level.
Okay, I want to restrain myself,  because I could go off on this all night and I think most readers will understand these things anyway….

Not only can you detect the radio waves from satellites, but you can actually see them.  You can see them with the naked eye and you can make out details of large ones with a telescope.

In space there is almost no atmosphere, so the temperature of the few molecules bouncing around does not matter.  Space has no ambient temperature.  The temperature of an object depends on the rate it radiates heat, whether it is absorbing heat from the sun and whether it produces its own heat.  Indeed, a thermometer, with no internal heating, placed in space, will get very cold because it radiates heat faster than it is absorbed. However, equipment that generates heat can get very hot because there is no convection cooling.  In fact, thermal management of spacecraft is a very complex engineering challenge.

A rocket engine does not need air to push against. It does not need anything to push against. Its own exhaust is what it is pushing against. Really, you could set off a rocket in a vacuum chamber if you do not believe me. Air is not needed for thrust or control.

Solar cells are not used on spacecraft because of environmental concerns. The sun is very intense in space and provides a lot of power. Solar cells last much longer than fuel cells or batteries and you can’t use a combustion motor in space without bringing along oxygen. Although nuclear power sources have also been used, for most applications in the vicinity of earth, solar cells are the most economical and easiest way to provide necessary power to a spacecraft.

We have tons of photographs of earth from satellites. How many do you want? Most are from low earth orbit and therefore, only a portion of the earth is seen. You need to go much further away to see the whole thing, but there are plenty of those too, taken from deeper space missions. The “Blue Marble” taken during Apollo 17 is iconic as it was one of the earliest full disk pictures of the earth (though not actually the first) and got a lot of attention. There are many others, but it is one of the best know.

The guy talking about radio propagation has it all wrong.  Sky wave propagation only applies to HF signals, and even then it’s fickle and depends on the ionospheric conditions. These signals lack the high bandwidth needed for things like television.  Satellites use microwave frequencies, which are also very directional and usually require a high gain antenna, like a dish.  This is why you get different signals when pointed at different satellites and none when pointed at empty parts of the sky.
Also, satellites really haven’t gotten “larger” or “smaller.” The sizes are highly varied.  Indeed, the first satellites were small, because of limited rocket technology.  By the late 1960′s, satellites the size of a bus could be launched and were used for things like surveillance.  Some payloads, like Skylab, were enormous.  Today some satellites are very big, but the miniaturization of electronics has also allowed some very small satellites to be useful.

Finally, it is possible to find pictures of satellites that are real photographs. However, the issue is that in order to photograph a satellite in detail, you need another satellite flying near it with a camera, and we don’t usually have that. Illustrations are thus easier to make. Also, if you want to show several satellites in relation to the earth, you have to use an illustration, because it’s obviously not going to be to scale. You want a photograph of the entire GPS constellation flying around earth? Not possible. The satellites are too small in relation to the earth.

It’s amazing how little these people understand of basic concepts and how poor they are at researching and educating themselves.  Yet they will declare with authority that everyone else is one of the “Sheeple.”

Yeah.  I have a basic understanding of physics and radio communications.  I must be bought and paid for by the government


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15 Responses to “Satellites Do not Exist – Literally the Dumbest Video I Have Ever Seen”

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    DV82XL Says:

    Wow! On the other hand that’s a half hour of my life I’ll never get back. However one is forced to wonder just how much of this they really believe, and how much of it is just to get a rise out of their betters. I’m finding too often many of those taking stands on several pseudoscientific topics are doing so primarily as an F**k You to those they feel have marginalized them for their lack of sci/tech knowledge. Taking a contrarian stand and refusing to be moved by reason somehow seems to empower them in some way that I don’t quite understand.


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    L.Long Says:

    Never underestimate the depth, breath, or power of human stupidity!!!

    Also they refer to us as SHEEPLE. This again shows their basic stupidity. As that word does not apply, as it refers to a group of people that call themselves that…as in…. the lord is my shepard, & I shall not want….which make the 2 legged followers sheeple.
    Since we do not consider any scientist or science itself as our shepard the word does not apply.
    So they do not only do not understand basic science but any real thinking is way beyond them.


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    DV82XL Says:

            L.Long said:

    Never underestimate the depth, breadth, or power of human stupidity!!!

    There is indeed a vocal minority of truly stupid individuals out there that have been given a reach by the bully-pulpit of the net that they never enjoyed in the past, however they have always been with us. I recall in my youth there was a poorly printed news sheet called ‘Gabriel’s Trumpet’ (or something similar) that would appear in our mailbox at random intervals, put there by some older man that could often be seen around town either pamphleteering or talking to himself, that was full of this sort of nonsense. No one I knew took this rubbish seriously and this is what has changed.

    What we are seeing is, I think, a bit of a perfect storm driven by a falling trust in things like government and business who in fact have told lies and suppressed information to their benefit, what could be seen as a developing crises in science with an unacceptable number of marginal and mendacious papers making through peer-review, coupled with clearly decaying standards in general education. This latter being most acute in the areas of math,science, and critical thinking. Together they have created a population full of distrust and lacking the skills to evaluate the information they are being fed.

    Things like the topic at hand or Moon landing hoax theories are the outliers here, but they are symptomatic of much deeper rot that is coming at a very bad time in human history because we are going to have to deal with some very critical issues over the course of the next generation, and the public is just not equipped to participate in any meaningful way on these.


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    Engineer-Poet Says:

    I find it hard to believe that anyone actually watched that all the way through.  I made it to 1:02 before the stupid-overload tripped the breaker.

    The problem with things like this is that either the maker can’t think, or is trolling for others who can’t.  For instance, the thermosphere is upwards of 600°C… so by his “reasoning”, the entire Earth should be at least that hot as well.  Sitting where I had to bring my tender tomato plant indoors against frost last night, that notion is very amusing.

    Someone should tell this clown about the temperature of the solar wind and how it proves that life can’t exist on Earth.  Someone other than me, I have better things to do than troll him.


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    Walter Says:

    Thus we have a truly massive conspiracy that involves the NASA, the Department of Defense and numerous other US agencies, but also the Russians, the Japanese, the Chinese, the Indians, the Canadians, the British, the French, the Germans… every country that has ever participated in space exploration. Also, included, of course, are all the respective companies and entities in those countries, whether those be Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Space X, British Aerospace, Volvo Aerospace and on and on. Also, of course, every big media company that uses satellites (think DirecTV, XM radio, Sky, all the satellite phone companies).

    This makes for a truly massive conspiracy. Obviously hugely expensive to maintain such a huge charade.

    What is the benefit here? I mean is this all for money from fake launch contracts or something?

    I think this would actually be the biggest conspiracy ever.


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    Sigivald Says:

    … yeah, I’m not going to watch a 30 minute nutbar video at work, but how DO they explain how DirecTV or Dish subscriptions work?

    I mean, I had one and watched the dude wire it up and point the dish, and I could see there were no wires leading to it carrying a fat video signal, and I’ve seen other people’s installs where wind and weather made it fail exactly as if it was being diverted or blocked from receiving a signal from a satellite in geosynchronous orbit.

    That’s an awful lot of work to go through to fool people into thinking there’s a whole class of objects that aren’t real … and to what relative benefit?

    (I mean, sure, you could notionally do that stuff with terrestrial broadcast … though that doesn’t explain why a dish on an RV in the Middle Of Nowhere still works.

    But WHY?)


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    drbuzz0 Says:

            Sigivald said:

    … yeah, I’m not going to watch a 30 minute nutbar video at work, but how DO they explain how DirecTV or Dish subscriptions work?

    I mean, I had one and watched the dude wire it up and point the dish, and I could see there were no wires leading to it carrying a fat video signal, and I’ve seen other people’s installs where wind and weather made it fail exactly as if it was being diverted or blocked from receiving a signal from a satellite in geosynchronous orbit.

    That’s an awful lot of work to go through to fool people into thinking there’s a whole class of objects that aren’t real … and to what relative benefit?

    (I mean, sure, you could notionally do that stuff with terrestrial broadcast … though that doesn’t explain why a dish on an RV in the Middle Of Nowhere still works.

    But WHY?)

    One of the guys claims it’s all terrestrial and his proof is that terrestrial broadcasting does exist. In other words, satellites are not required to have a TV signal, so it must just be that all TV signals are not satellite-based. If you understand this concept at all, you realize it makes no sense at all.

    Also, he seems to think he has “discovered” something by revealing that radio waves can propagate around the earth and over the horizon without satellites. He has a whole part about how skywaves could be all we are receiving from the apparent satellites. He does not seem to understand what the HF spectrum is or how limited it is or how fickle skywave propagation is. There’s a reason why HF was abandoned for serious overseas communication as soon as alternatives existed.

    The only part that is true (kinda) is he says cell phones and the internet can work without satellites. Apparently he didn’t realize that this is no secret. Internet traffic is not normally routed over satellites except when you are in a remote area with a satellite uplink and cell phones don’t use satellites. Most internet data is undersea cables.

    Satellites are used mainly for video, broadcasting (including data distribution), for remote areas and mobile communication and that kind of thing. He apparently didn’t realize this.

    Actually, however, international telephone exchanges are sometimes routed over satellite links. Not much in areas of the world that have decent infrastructure, but it’s common in some places that lack the terresterial infrastructure. A lot of phone traffic in places like Africa and even the Middle East is still satellite-based.


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    Anon Says:

            Sigivald said:

    (I mean, sure, you could notionally do that stuff with terrestrial broadcast … though that doesn’t explain why a dish on an RV in the Middle Of Nowhere still works.

    Alien spaceships provide the relay service.</sarcasm>


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    L.Long Says:

    Hey! Walter you forgot a few!! ALL radio amateurs over the entire world, all amateur astronomers over the entire world, all the amateur scientists over the entire world are all a part of the conspiracy.
    Or a lot simpler the satellite deniers, like evilution deniers, and Climate deniers, are just plain stupid!


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    DV82XL Says:

    Basically what this shows is that if you are working backwards to a desired conclusion, have loose criteria for what counts as proof, and allow tangential and circumstantial evidence – you can build a case for literally any theory, no matter how wacky or implausible. The larger problem that this sort of nonsense is symptomatic of is that the metaphors, and analogies used in popular science treatments eventually break down and people are being asked to accept scientific truths on faith, and this eventually causes a failure in understanding because it does not allow a clear differentiation between science and any other faith based explanation of reality. The point here being that without a foundation in math, science and logic, his stupid explanations are qualitatively no different than those used to explain the truth to those without a good technical background.


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    Q Says:

    I think many of them buy into the belief that there is basically a single grand world conspiracy. By this belief the powers that be (whether they are the Illuminati, the Free Masons, the Crab People or whoever) are running everything. Every big company, every country and so on is under their control. There are no countries, because it’s all just window dressing for the conspirators who pull the strings on everything.

    Yes, there are people who believe this. My cousin does. I’m serious. I can’t get away from him because he is family. He literally believes there is a single world order and that countries don’t exist because really all their leaders are part of the world order and it’s all centrally planned.

    He is also totally sold on chemtrails, so there you go.

    The insane thing here (well there are many insane things) is that the possibility of satellites existed before we actually launched them. It’s basic physics. newton explained how a body can go into orbit of another body. It’s like one of the first things you learn in physics101. The satellite is falling at a rate that matches the curvature of the body it is falling around.

    For satellites to not be possible, you’re basically have to say that gravity does not exist.

    If you had asked a physicist in 1900 if it would be possible to send an object into orbit of the earth they would have said “yes, it’s possible, but you will need a big rocket or gun or something to accelerate it to the necessary speed”


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    Engineer-Poet Says:

    It was already in the realm of popular fiction in 1869, proven by The Brick Moon.


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    Dogmug Says:

    “… Literally the Dumbest Video I Have Ever Seen”

    Then you just haven’t been looking! I’ve seen a few that have been straight-up “word salad”. These guys at least can assemble a recognizable sentence.

    I have hope for the future; the pseudoscientists have consistently set their standards higher with each passing year. The rising tide brought in by the Internet has indeed lifted all boats. Bogosity even has its own form of Peer Review now — see Beall’s List for the journals, and Rense-dot-com for numerous Reviews by even more numerous Peers.

    Why, some day, the advance of pseudoscience will happen so quickly that it will become asymptotic, and the frauds of the world will transform into a great meta-lie that will control all of space and time. We will be remade as hyper-sentient cyborgs capable of infinite deceit. We won’t NEED E-meters, we will BE E-meters.

    We will be as if gods! It will be the Singularity! (Kind of.)

    The only things holding us back are Aspartame, HAARP, Big Pharma, and Scientism.

    And: high-five to Engineer-Poet for “The Brick Moon”. It’s Gutenberg #1633.

    http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1633


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    Loren Pechtel Says:

    I’m yet another that couldn’t get very far though it because of stupid overload.

    However, it should be obvious that satellites can’t exist and the whole thing is a conspiracy–the Earth is flat, after all!

    (And ignore the inconvenient reality that I have done two round-the-world trips. You can’t see where you really are when you’re out over the ocean, the pilots are in on the conspiracy, when you fly across the Pacific they really go up north over the arctic waters and bring you back to the far east. After all, why did I see so much ice looking out the window on a flight between two temperate latitudes???)


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    Shafe Says:

            Loren Pechtel said:

    After all, why did I see so much ice looking out the window on a flight between two temperate latitudes???)

    Pilots on long trips fly near the equator, because that part of the Earth moves faster than others (the poles are stationary,) and they pick up speed in a slingshot maneuver back to northern (or southern) latitudes. And, as you know, the tropics experience Winter while the temperate latitudes are in Spring and Fall. You were seeing the equatorial ice floe. Do your research.


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