Comments on: Q: How does a radio tower cause rashes and headaches when its turned off? http://depletedcranium.com/q-how-does-a-radio-tower-cause-rashes-and-headaches-when-its-turned-off/ Bad Science And Scary Science Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:37:44 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: DT http://depletedcranium.com/q-how-does-a-radio-tower-cause-rashes-and-headaches-when-its-turned-off/comment-page-1/#comment-23937 DT Tue, 04 May 2010 11:41:15 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=4669#comment-23937 I'm a technophile person, but I think that there's still one unanswered question, meaning whether the people claiming to have electro sensitivity were paid by wireless network suppliers or whoever to pretend to have those health problems whether they weren't. I’m a technophile person, but I think that there’s still one unanswered question, meaning whether the people claiming to have electro sensitivity were paid by wireless network suppliers or whoever to pretend to have those health problems whether they weren’t.

]]> By: Sprint fires up 4G service in Central Pennsylvania | Mobile Telephones http://depletedcranium.com/q-how-does-a-radio-tower-cause-rashes-and-headaches-when-its-turned-off/comment-page-1/#comment-23933 Sprint fires up 4G service in Central Pennsylvania | Mobile Telephones Tue, 04 May 2010 04:04:29 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=4669#comment-23933 [...] You feel that, Central Pennsylvanians? That slight warmth radiating through the air? That’s Sprint’s 4G service you’re basking in, friend. (Whats that? You don’t feel it? That’s okay. You’re not supposed to be able to. That was just a shout out to all the crazies that swear they get headaches from radio towers — even when they’re turned off.) [...] [...] You feel that, Central Pennsylvanians? That slight warmth radiating through the air? That’s Sprint’s 4G service you’re basking in, friend. (Whats that? You don’t feel it? That’s okay. You’re not supposed to be able to. That was just a shout out to all the crazies that swear they get headaches from radio towers — even when they’re turned off.) [...]

]]> By: Sprint fires up 4G service in Central Pennsylvania | Mobile News http://depletedcranium.com/q-how-does-a-radio-tower-cause-rashes-and-headaches-when-its-turned-off/comment-page-1/#comment-23915 Sprint fires up 4G service in Central Pennsylvania | Mobile News Mon, 03 May 2010 20:39:28 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=4669#comment-23915 [...] You feel that, Central Pennsylvanians? That slight warmth radiating through the air? That’s Sprint’s 4G service you’re basking in, friend. (Whats that? You don’t feel it? That’s okay. You’re not supposed to be able to. That was just a shout out to all the crazies that swear they get headaches from radio towers — even when they’re turned off.) [...] [...] You feel that, Central Pennsylvanians? That slight warmth radiating through the air? That’s Sprint’s 4G service you’re basking in, friend. (Whats that? You don’t feel it? That’s okay. You’re not supposed to be able to. That was just a shout out to all the crazies that swear they get headaches from radio towers — even when they’re turned off.) [...]

]]> By: Magic Donuts http://depletedcranium.com/q-how-does-a-radio-tower-cause-rashes-and-headaches-when-its-turned-off/comment-page-1/#comment-21129 Magic Donuts Sat, 23 Jan 2010 07:59:27 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=4669#comment-21129 Its a real shame that a transition to more modern technology and being connected by mobile and wireless broadband would be hampered by such a stupid concern over an invented danger. This is becoming more than just a nuisance. We can't be pushed back into the stoneage by idiotic concerns like this. Its a real shame that a transition to more modern technology and being connected by mobile and wireless broadband would be hampered by such a stupid concern over an invented danger. This is becoming more than just a nuisance. We can’t be pushed back into the stoneage by idiotic concerns like this.

]]> By: Calli Arcale http://depletedcranium.com/q-how-does-a-radio-tower-cause-rashes-and-headaches-when-its-turned-off/comment-page-1/#comment-21112 Calli Arcale Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:55:27 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=4669#comment-21112 I completely agree; I was just startled to hear a "pornography" objection. I was fully braced for the "radiation" objection (as the arcane city code requires that it be as close as possible to the actual building and not appear to be a separate structure). The person who made that objection first asked the facilities guy if it would carry cable TV (after hearing that it wouldn't be cell phones), and was assured that no, it would not; it would be broadband data service, which she was okay with until I put my foot in my mouth by pointing out that the Internet carries porn. I was trying to point out how ubiquitous it is, and that we cannot avoid it except by cutting ourselves off from the world, but she was then too disturbed by that realization to hear the rest of what I was saying. How that attitude makes us no better than China. Hubby eventually got through to her what you just said, that this could apply to pretty much any product. I think it gave her some serious food for thought. She's just unsure whether we should profit off of it. I pointed out that we need the money desperately, but that made her think of the slippery slope. Not an entirely valid argument, but the slippery slope will make people uneasy. Our congregational meeting, at which this will be more formally discussed, is in two weeks. That should be very interesting. I wonder if it will be more or less interesting than the public hearings that will be held to give the church a variance for constructing a 65' tower on the site? I suspect that it's the public hearings where the radiation fear will come up. I completely agree; I was just startled to hear a “pornography” objection. I was fully braced for the “radiation” objection (as the arcane city code requires that it be as close as possible to the actual building and not appear to be a separate structure). The person who made that objection first asked the facilities guy if it would carry cable TV (after hearing that it wouldn’t be cell phones), and was assured that no, it would not; it would be broadband data service, which she was okay with until I put my foot in my mouth by pointing out that the Internet carries porn. I was trying to point out how ubiquitous it is, and that we cannot avoid it except by cutting ourselves off from the world, but she was then too disturbed by that realization to hear the rest of what I was saying. How that attitude makes us no better than China. Hubby eventually got through to her what you just said, that this could apply to pretty much any product. I think it gave her some serious food for thought. She’s just unsure whether we should profit off of it. I pointed out that we need the money desperately, but that made her think of the slippery slope. Not an entirely valid argument, but the slippery slope will make people uneasy.

Our congregational meeting, at which this will be more formally discussed, is in two weeks. That should be very interesting. I wonder if it will be more or less interesting than the public hearings that will be held to give the church a variance for constructing a 65′ tower on the site? I suspect that it’s the public hearings where the radiation fear will come up.

]]> By: drbuzz0 http://depletedcranium.com/q-how-does-a-radio-tower-cause-rashes-and-headaches-when-its-turned-off/comment-page-1/#comment-21082 drbuzz0 Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:28:22 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=4669#comment-21082 [quote comment="21081"]My church is looking to lease land for a communciations tower. (Not actually cell service; it would be for broadband internet access.)[/quote] They should go for it. it can be pretty lucrative financially and they may be able to negotiate some other benefits, for example, since the company will need to bring in internet infrastructure, they could possibly get free broadband as part of the deal. Unless the tower is right smack in the middle of a historic site or a botanical garden or something, it seems like a no-brainier to me. They're offering free money to occupy a comparatively small area of land. [quote comment="21081"] I've met one parishoner upset because she doesn't want the church profiting from pornography. (Sigh.) [/quote] I'm not sure I see that as profiting from pornography. Sure, some people who use the service might download porn, but that's not the direct means of income and really, it's just a means to an end. Internet access is one thing, but people will use it as they choose. The mail service, private delivery services and such are all used to deliver pornography (they're also used to deliver all kinds of other stuff) You could apply this to almost any product. Selling video tapes? Some may be used to record dirty movies. Sell paper? someone may very well print a dirty picture on it. Selling hammers? Someone might use one to kill someone by hitting them over the head. Sell cars? Someone could use one to drive someplace immoral or to drive to a crime.

        Calli Arcale said:

My church is looking to lease land for a communciations tower. (Not actually cell service; it would be for broadband internet access.)

They should go for it. it can be pretty lucrative financially and they may be able to negotiate some other benefits, for example, since the company will need to bring in internet infrastructure, they could possibly get free broadband as part of the deal.

Unless the tower is right smack in the middle of a historic site or a botanical garden or something, it seems like a no-brainier to me. They’re offering free money to occupy a comparatively small area of land.

        Calli Arcale said:

I’ve met one parishoner upset because she doesn’t want the church profiting from pornography. (Sigh.)

I’m not sure I see that as profiting from pornography. Sure, some people who use the service might download porn, but that’s not the direct means of income and really, it’s just a means to an end. Internet access is one thing, but people will use it as they choose. The mail service, private delivery services and such are all used to deliver pornography (they’re also used to deliver all kinds of other stuff)

You could apply this to almost any product. Selling video tapes? Some may be used to record dirty movies. Sell paper? someone may very well print a dirty picture on it. Selling hammers? Someone might use one to kill someone by hitting them over the head. Sell cars? Someone could use one to drive someplace immoral or to drive to a crime.

]]> By: Calli Arcale http://depletedcranium.com/q-how-does-a-radio-tower-cause-rashes-and-headaches-when-its-turned-off/comment-page-1/#comment-21081 Calli Arcale Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:57:42 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=4669#comment-21081 My church is looking to lease land for a communciations tower. (Not actually cell service; it would be for broadband internet access.) I've met one parishoner upset because she doesn't want the church profiting from pornography. (Sigh.) But the neighborhood doesn't know about it yet; we're too early in the negotiations at this point. I'm kinda bracing myself for how that will go. How many will claim to get sick because of the tower? Hopefully none. We shall see. My church is looking to lease land for a communciations tower. (Not actually cell service; it would be for broadband internet access.) I’ve met one parishoner upset because she doesn’t want the church profiting from pornography. (Sigh.) But the neighborhood doesn’t know about it yet; we’re too early in the negotiations at this point. I’m kinda bracing myself for how that will go. How many will claim to get sick because of the tower? Hopefully none. We shall see.

]]> By: Sigivald http://depletedcranium.com/q-how-does-a-radio-tower-cause-rashes-and-headaches-when-its-turned-off/comment-page-1/#comment-21068 Sigivald Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:40:53 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=4669#comment-21068 Matthew: Naw, wouldn't work. They'd just go conspiracy-theory and claim that until the day of the "revelation" there really were electronics beaming evil microdoomrays into their heads. And in the middle of the night the evil telco totally took them away to avoid Paying The Price Of Their Misdeeds. Doubtless someone who heard a car drive by that night will be enlisted to provide proof of the Evil Telco's Sneaky Trucks Of Sneakiness. Matthew: Naw, wouldn’t work. They’d just go conspiracy-theory and claim that until the day of the “revelation” there really were electronics beaming evil microdoomrays into their heads.

And in the middle of the night the evil telco totally took them away to avoid Paying The Price Of Their Misdeeds.

Doubtless someone who heard a car drive by that night will be enlisted to provide proof of the Evil Telco’s Sneaky Trucks Of Sneakiness.

]]> By: MrNiceguy http://depletedcranium.com/q-how-does-a-radio-tower-cause-rashes-and-headaches-when-its-turned-off/comment-page-1/#comment-21066 MrNiceguy Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:30:13 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=4669#comment-21066 This story was on Slashdot last week. In the comments, someone mentioned that Amateur Radio operators will often wait a few weeks between putting up a tower and actually using it. Inevitably, neighbors will complain that the new radio is causing TV interference or some other problem. The HAM then takes them out back and shows the disconnected antenna cable. This story was on Slashdot last week. In the comments, someone mentioned that Amateur Radio operators will often wait a few weeks between putting up a tower and actually using it. Inevitably, neighbors will complain that the new radio is causing TV interference or some other problem. The HAM then takes them out back and shows the disconnected antenna cable.

]]> By: Gordon http://depletedcranium.com/q-how-does-a-radio-tower-cause-rashes-and-headaches-when-its-turned-off/comment-page-1/#comment-21063 Gordon Mon, 18 Jan 2010 06:20:52 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=4669#comment-21063 Build it out of styrofoam? Then after finding out that its made of styrofoam, people will insist that styrofoam must be giving off some weird rays that are causing their perceived illness! Build it out of styrofoam? Then after finding out that its made of styrofoam, people will insist that styrofoam must be giving off some weird rays that are causing their perceived illness!

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