Once again: Barbed Wire Facing “In” Does Not Mean Prison
August 28th, 2009
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Yes Another paranoid conspiracy-theorist video shows a couple of wackos driving around a facility and assuming it must be something sinister.
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this is in the middle of a neighborhood in nw of urbana il why is it there and what is it???? police patrolling the area more then what i have notice in the past???
Well, had those who made the video even bothered to hit up Google, they might realize that Environmental Operations, Inc. is an industrial remediation company that specializes in containment and remediation of sites that are contaminated with materials ranging from heavy metals to asbestos to PCB’s. Large tents may be erected around structures that are being removed in order to contain dust. It seems the company has done a few projects in this area, so its hard to tell exactly what this is. It is probably some kind of industrial clean-up.
And no, the fact that the fence is “facing in” does not mean anything at all.
Reasons why barbed wire fence arms might face inward:
- It was a mistake
- The fence is on the edge of the property and thus anything extending beyond it would be undesirable
- Installing it facing inward makes it more difficult for someone to reach up and cut the barbed wire with wire cutters
- It avoids the possibility that a passerby or vehicle would get snagged on the wire (if it is low enough)
It is not terribly unusual for barbed wire fence “arms” to face inward, toward a facility that the fence is intended to protect. I’ve seen it plenty of times myself. Here are just a few examples:
Clearly these are not all “Fema Camps.” I could put more examples, but hopefully this will suffice. The fact that barbed wire arms face a certain direction means absolutely nothing.
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August 28th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Um, also, aren’t there legitimate reasons for FEMA to stockpile equipment which would be used in the construction of camps? Like, maybe, if there were another massive evacuation, and, like, people needed to, like, go somewhere instead of living in the Superdome again?
Just an innocent question.
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August 28th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
I have a frost fence on one side of my property because there is a church right beside us. The fence belongs to me, and the barbed wire is pointing inward, despite the fact that I put it up to keep trespassers out. This is because there is a By-law in my town mandating that this shall be so, and it is written into the construction permit I had to get before putting the fence up.
I am not planning to run a concentration camp in my back yard.
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August 28th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Stewart Peterson said:
Oh, of course. The US does have various stratigic stockpiles of things like medical supplies, blankets, tents and so on. Of course, a lot of this stuff is actually military equipment which is basically dual-use. Military tents, generators, trucks and so on can be used for troop accommodation or for relief efforts.
Not that the US is the only country that does this either.
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August 29th, 2009 at 10:08 am
I wish I knew people like this in real life. Just one or two of them. I know they exist, but I only ever hear about ‘em on the web. Everyone I know is so depressingly sane. A real life loony of my own would be ever so much fun.
Drive by their house real slowly every now and then, in a van with antennas all over it. Get them involved in a phone conversation about “the camps” and whenever the phrase is mentioned, click the flash button. Leave small electronic components salvaged from dead cell phones in inconspicuous places in their house. Change all their outdoor light bulbs to CFLs, and leave a hanger on the front doorknob with nothing but a black serial number on a white background.
That sorta thing.
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August 29th, 2009 at 10:34 am
DV82XL said:
Oh come on you expect us to believe you. You must be a covert government employee.
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August 29th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
I’ve seen plenty of examples of barbed wire topped chain link fences facing inward toward something they are protecting. It means nothing. If you actually do look at places like prisons, they don’t have a single chain link fence with barbed wire. Barbed wire is not even that effective at stopping people who really want to get past it – just be careful to grab it between the barbs. Prisons have multiple fences that are very tall and topped with many loops of razor wire and sometimes electrified too.
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August 31st, 2009 at 10:43 am
I don’t know about the third picture. Maybe the barbed wire is to keep the electricity from escaping.
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August 31st, 2009 at 2:46 pm
apotheosis said:
So you want just ONE loony person around? Well, hon, I can give you THOUSANDS of lunes. We have plenty to spare here on the north lakefront of Chicago. Come and look in zipcodes 60640, 60660, 60645, and 60626.
Especially 60640 and 60626.
Take as many as you want. You’d better charter a train.
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September 15th, 2009 at 10:36 am
I’ve seen plenty of barbed wire fences facing inward. Good point that it would make it harder to cut them with wire cutters and go over the fence. It might be zoning also. There is a barbed wire fence like that near a pump station down the road from me and I am quite sure it is just a pump station. The criteria for people becoming convinced something is a “Fema camp” or “concentration camp” seems to be pretty low.
I wonder what it is like in life for these people. If they actually believe half this crap I’d expect that they would be quitting their job and using their time to dig a hole in their back yard for a bunker or that they’d spend all their money stocking up on barrels of survival food and water in their basement or something else nutty like that. If you really believe the government is coming to kill everyone then priority one in your life is probably going to be hiding, surviving and getting away from the big conspiracy. After all, why would work or socializing or anything matter when we’re so close to this?
The one thing that really worries me is these people going out and getting armed with a lot of guns and other weapons. I’m not the type who is afraid of guns in general or anything, but I appreciate that a firearm in the hands of a mentally ill person is very dangerous. If these people are paranoid enough to think anyone else who doesn’t believe their claims is part of the conspiracy, then things could get bad very fast.
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November 25th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
and I guess all you guys also believe that Oswald was a lone assassin, continue to live in the matrix, it’s your choice, granted some things are so over the top that one looks to them in disbelief, when you are sitting in one of these places along with your families with a microchip implanted under your skin maybe then you will think that all us conspiracy nuts just may have been on to something, the one underlying common thread is Lucifer, read your history
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November 25th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
The conspiracy nut believes in the scope and effectiveness of a particular conspiracy theory to an irrational degree. The conspiracy nut’s irrationally extends in his mind to an active involvement in a posited conspiracy by all members of a large group of humanity, whether a race, religion or organization. Jews, Catholics and Freemasons are the classic examples of the groups chosen in the past, although today they are likely to be called the Illuminati, the Club of Rome, or the Committee of 300. To him there are no co-incidences. Nothing is without significance. If you can imagine a plot, then someone somewhere is trying to carry it out. And plenty of others that you can’t imagine, too.
The conspirators work in supreme secrecy, in a vast organization, to control and manipulate every aspect of world economy and government, but they are both fundamentally incompetent and superstitious. They must be, since the honest and brave citizen can, with a little work, reveal the truth for all to see. A truth manifested in the conspirators need to pepper symbols of their existence in every corner of public life.
The conspirators are powerful, and evil, but they don’t use their power to “disappear” those that expose them, like some third-rate dictatorship would. They aren’t that incompetent (although one has to wonder why). They merely restrict access to the media. Therefore any conspiracy-revealer who can’t get into print must be telling the truth, independent of any merit in what they say. And anyone who contradicts this, must be one of them.
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November 25th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
tenred said:
Actually, I’m quite sure he was. Granted, I once was a believer in some kind of conspiracy, but I did a lot of research on this and it really turns out the Kennedy Assassination was a lot less than it seems. It does not take a great deal of skill or being a genius to shoot a man in an open slow-moving car on a published route. Anyone could do it, actually. Anyone in the crowd could have pulled a gun and killed the president right then and there. It doesn’t matter that he was president, bullets don’t care. Of course, they would get caught.
Oswald was willing to get caught. He made some effort to avoid it, fleeing the scene and everything, but in the end, this was what he felt was his moment. He was a desperate, disenfranchised man. He was a nobody and he felt like a nobody and he wanted to go down in a way that would make him remembered. The assassination was a crime of opportunity. He had previously tried to kill General Walker and failed.
It was a crime of opportunity. He had a job in the School Book Depository and he found out the motorcade was going right past his building. He owned a high powered rifle and he was a descent shot. Those who say he was a bad shot deny history. He wasn’t a great shot, but he was good enough to hit a man in a slow car from a stable perch with a good scope. He had all those. He shot three times. One hit the mark, one was close but would probably not have been fatal and one was a complete miss.
Yeah, that is all there was to it.
tenred said:
If only you would read yours! Conspiracies tend to be a lot less grand and scary than you make them out to be. They usually involve something like a politician trying to hide phone records that show he visited a prostitute or a high ranking official padding hours and embezzling funds. Boring stuff like that. Hell, the big scary Nixon administration couldn’t keep a two bit burglary under wraps!
It’s very hard to keep a big secret for any period of time. Even with draconian measures, most secret programs suffer very bad leaks after a few years tops, and that’s when it involves only a small portion of the government.
When someone asks “what is the government planning” or “what is the government’s agenda” they already show they don’t understand the government. There is no single agenda or plan. The government is very compartmentalized and getting many different agencies to work in unison on a coherent plan is very difficult, even when it’s public.
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November 25th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
and again the choice is yours, continue to live in the matrix if you so choose, one day EVERYONE will be given the opportunity to take the mark of the beast, less than 1% of the world’s population has always controlled the money and the power of the world, trace the paths of the pharoahs of egypt, where did they go? one of the greatest powers of satan is the use of deception and his web of deceit has been cast throughout all aspects of our lives, i know i will refuse the mark of the beast and therefore will die, but knowing i will have everlasting life, for it is written
and yes i am sure Oswald was there and he may even have fired the kill shot, but he just like that guy at Ft Hood, was a wayward soul, an easy Manchurian candidate, why if there is nothing to hide were the records sealed? and BTW i thought we were talking about the FEMA camps, and when i am talking about read your history, i am talking about going way back, things like solomon’s temple, knights of malta, knights templar, constantine, i really hate that you guys continue to live with blinders but someday you will be forced to take them off, like it or not
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November 25th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
tenred said:
Thanks.. But I prefer reality. That’s where I prefer to live. I visit virtual fantasy worlds every once in a while, in the form of video games and that kind of thing, but I’m aware that’s synthetic and I don’t get the two mixed up.
tenred said:
Have read all that. Unfortunately, things like the reign of Solomon and Constantine don’t have a lot of good objective references. There certainly was a temple, but most of the documentation is Biblical and that is as much myth as history. The best information we can get is from a combination or archeology and indirect sources.
Based on what can be verified, the fact of the matter appears to be that Solomon was more of a regional warlord than a wise king. A lot of the stories of God’s commandments to him and to Israel are probably just attempts at justifying his conquest and slaughter of the neighbors of Israel.
Constantine, who is known by the Church as “Saint Constantine the Great” was a fairly so-so emperor who embraced a growing underground religion and also managed to destroy the Western Roman empire and cause it’s collapse by all but abandoning Rome and establishing a new capital on the other side of the empire. Constantine being remembered as anything great is just an example of revisionist history by the Church.
The Nights Templar were a group of knights during the Crusades, who would not be all that noteworthy, except they got into banking and issuing credit, which made them modestly wealthy, eventually leading to them getting an inflated reputation. This would lead to their disbandment many years later, with their leaders being executed. However, by that time, they were way past their prime anyway.
Believe me, I know all about this stuff.
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November 25th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
DV82XL said:
I once read (cannot remember where), that most conspiracy theories are born out of an arrogance and denial that someone had gotten the better of them. The examples used:
Its impossible that Japan caught America by surprise with the Pearl Harbour attack, the US Government MUST have let it happen.
Its impossible that one lone nut with a rifle took out JFK, the Government MUST have had a hand in it and planned it out.
Its impossible for some fundamentalists opperating out of Afghanistan to attack US home soil, it MUST have been the Government.
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November 26th, 2009 at 1:30 am
i came, i saw, i was conquered! i should not have brought a knife to a gunfight! you guys are far too intellectual for me! thanks for straightening things out for me! i usually get all my perspectives on life from the Bible, which over a quarter of it is prophetical, and from the Koran, and from other various Biblical writings and teachers. but i guess i should have been listening to you guys the whole time! and i am sure all these groups like the tri-lateral commission, united nations, club of rome, bilderbergs, illuminati, masons, etc. are totally harmless and have nothing to do with satan’s agenda. so when the international banking cartels devalue all the world’s currencies and all money will be embedded in the microchip planted under my skin and without it i will no longer be able to buy nor sell, i guess i won’t have anything to worry about? like spending an eternal life in hell like it says in the Bible because that just based on myths? thanks guys, for a minute there i was worried, now my mind is at ease. i feel so stupid! i am so glad that Eve was the ONLY one decieved by satan, oh wait, that’s just a myth! but i will pray for you! God bless!
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November 26th, 2009 at 1:44 am
Arrogance is probably part of it. I think there’s more to it though. Part is a desire to find order in disorder. It’s very disconcerting to think that such important things don’t happen for a big grand reason. People like to attach meaning to things. Often it’s in the form of “it’s god’s plan” or “fate” or something. It seems more sensible than that a dozen guys with box cutters could kill thousands and change the course of a nation’s policies.
That also comes down to the sense of scale. Things like the explanation of the Kennedy Assassination being just a single guy with a gun and an opportunity seem to not befit the scope of the event or the status of Kennedy.
Finally, part of it is this self-gradifying sense of being so smart that they figured it out. People like to play slueth and show that they are smarter than everyone else. Sure, they fooled all the astronomers at Jodrell Bank, the Soviet Union and dozens of Australian technicians, but the conspiracy theorists are so smart they found what everyone else missed!
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November 26th, 2009 at 1:45 am
Yes indeed, go back to your fairytales and your imaginary friends in the sky. But know that every time you turn on a light, or buy food at the store, or take a drink of water from a tap, you are depending on people like us, who believe in the truths of science not your holy ghosts and raving, drug addled, Bronze Age ‘prophets’
And when you are ill and go to seek help from science to make you well, be sure to remember it was us, not some spirit-in-the-sky that helped you. But of course you won’t. You would rather grovel before some imaginary being, than face the fact that your pathetic existence depends on other humans that are better and smarter than you are. You would rather salve your ego with nonsense than face the fact that you and people like you are a class that people like us support for no other reason than we choose to.
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November 26th, 2009 at 2:11 am
sorry guys, didn’t see the disclaimer about ya’ll not believing in God and that EVERYTHING we have, water from a tap etc is brought to us by HIM, i have a good friend who is athiest and we have meaningful conversations about each other’s views and yet he does not attack me the way you guys do, well hey gotta go read my Bible and say my prayers and thank God for everything He has done for me, you know you guys can go ahead and get your microchip implanted, it is available, avoid the rush, without God there would be no science!
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November 26th, 2009 at 2:15 am
Didn’t know there needed to be a disclaimer. I’m an atheist. I don’t make any effort to hide it. Not everyone who frequents this site is an atheist, and I don’t have a problem with that.
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November 26th, 2009 at 2:26 am
Water from the tap comes from a bunch of hard working people that consider themselves to be a success BECAUSE they do their jobs so well nobody notices them. The systems were designed and built by other people and produced by those with the foresight to realize this would rase the standard of living for all.
Claiming their work as the product of some imaginary deity is an insult to them and typical of those who know just how dependent they are on their betters to give them the things they could not get for themselves.
What an admission of your own helplessness and dependence. How much more pathetic can you get?
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November 26th, 2009 at 2:49 am
tenred said:
While you are doing that, I think that this year I’ll thank my doctors and nurses personally, and let them know their work doesn’t go unappreciated. I’m sure they’ll be a lot more thankful that I give credit to them and the work they do, rather than thank some ambiguous idea and ye olde book for all the work they and people like them do.
DV8 summed up my feelings pretty well: Thanking god for someone elses hardwork, foresight and achievements only succeeds in belitteling their work.
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