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		<title>By: Chem Geek Gregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chem Geek Gregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 05:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;6345&quot;]Xray is not the same as nuclear power or otherwise we would have people dying from xrays it&#039;s not the same and you can&#039;t get the same kind of problems.  Also xrays are only dangerous when they have a lot of them I think but that&#039;s different then a nuclear power generator or a bomb.[/quote]

You have not the slightest idea what you speak of and yet I would not doubt you&#039;re very active in promoting your view, however ill informed it is.  X-rays are ionizing radiation.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/if-nuclear-energy-kills-then-im-dead-3x-today/#comment-6345"><b>Dusty said:</b></a></p>
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Xray is not the same as nuclear power or otherwise we would have people dying from xrays it&#8217;s not the same and you can&#8217;t get the same kind of problems.  Also xrays are only dangerous when they have a lot of them I think but that&#8217;s different then a nuclear power generator or a bomb.</p>
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<p>You have not the slightest idea what you speak of and yet I would not doubt you&#8217;re very active in promoting your view, however ill informed it is.  X-rays are ionizing radiation.</p>
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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbuzz0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All good point, but Larry always makes good points because he&#039;s a real professional and knows this stuff inside and out.   

BTW:  A modest x-ray tube can generate as much radiation as a very large amount of a gamma emitting isotope.   Even that dental x-ray head would produce a lot more radiation than you&#039;d get from any amount of radioactive material anyone is likely to encounter outside of a sterilization plant or a national laboratory.   Of course, it only does so for a brief pulse.    Had that little dental x-ray head been energized continuously for an hour or more it could have done some real damage!   Of course, it probably would also have blown out the tube pretty fast because it&#039;s not designed for that.  But yeah, x-ray machines produce lots of radiation - lots and lots - if they&#039;re on for any period of time.   Hence they can cause injury if not done properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All good point, but Larry always makes good points because he&#8217;s a real professional and knows this stuff inside and out.   </p>
<p>BTW:  A modest x-ray tube can generate as much radiation as a very large amount of a gamma emitting isotope.   Even that dental x-ray head would produce a lot more radiation than you&#8217;d get from any amount of radioactive material anyone is likely to encounter outside of a sterilization plant or a national laboratory.   Of course, it only does so for a brief pulse.    Had that little dental x-ray head been energized continuously for an hour or more it could have done some real damage!   Of course, it probably would also have blown out the tube pretty fast because it&#8217;s not designed for that.  But yeah, x-ray machines produce lots of radiation &#8211; lots and lots &#8211; if they&#8217;re on for any period of time.   Hence they can cause injury if not done properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Grimm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Grimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dusty: I teach radiation safety.  

The only difference between an X-ray and a gamma ray is where they originate.  An X-ray originates in the orbiting electrons of an atom.  A gamma ray originates in the nucleus of an atom.  It is impossible to tell the difference between a 100 KeV (100,000 electron volts) X-ray and a 100 KeV gamma ray.  They are the same thing.   We give them different names for two reasons: to indicate where the ray came from; and because gamma rays can have higher energies.  Medically generated X-rays rarely get above 350 KeV, and most are typically between 60-120 KeV.   Gamma rays can get up to the million electron volt range.  

Your statement implies that the radiation from radioactive materials can be more harmful.  This is not necessarily true.  It all depends on how much radiation is absorbed by the body.  Counter-intuitively, the higher the energy of the ray, the more likely it will pass right through you with little energy absorbtion.  The lower the ray&#039;s energy, the more likely it is to be totally absorbed by the body.  

Actually, there are six factors that influence the hazard of a radioactive material: Type of emission; energy; half-life; quantity (typically described as Curies); decay path; and its chemical/physical form.  With X-rays only the energy and quantity (measured differently than radioactive materials) are necessary to determine the hazard as we already know the type of emission and the other factors aren&#039;t applicable.  So as a radiaoactive material example: one atom of a high energy, gamma emitting, long half-life radioactive atom in your body is highly unlikely to give you any radiation in your life-time.   If you find this info interesting, we can keep up the dialogue - there is a lot more to say.  

There are a LOT more injuries from medical X-rays - usually during therapy or interventional procedures (such as heart studies where they are injecting dyes).   I&#039;ve personally investigated a number of cases where a patient got skin burns from X-rays.   Yes, you can get hurt from large doses of radiation (X- or gamma rays), but we have absolutely no evidence that low doses are hurting anyone (I will differentiate that we have evidence that low doses will cause a change, however the evidence also seems to show that the body handles these changes quite readily. In other words, change doesn&#039;t necessarily mean harm).     

I challenge you to find anyone in the USA who has gotten a large dose of radiation from a nuclear power reactor.   Even living next to a nuclear power station is not going to give you any extra radiation.   You could go visit a nuclear power plant, and I can assure you that you won&#039;t get any radiation from the reactor.  I couldn&#039;t guarantee that to be true at your local hospital (please, ask me why I say this).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dusty: I teach radiation safety.  </p>
<p>The only difference between an X-ray and a gamma ray is where they originate.  An X-ray originates in the orbiting electrons of an atom.  A gamma ray originates in the nucleus of an atom.  It is impossible to tell the difference between a 100 KeV (100,000 electron volts) X-ray and a 100 KeV gamma ray.  They are the same thing.   We give them different names for two reasons: to indicate where the ray came from; and because gamma rays can have higher energies.  Medically generated X-rays rarely get above 350 KeV, and most are typically between 60-120 KeV.   Gamma rays can get up to the million electron volt range.  </p>
<p>Your statement implies that the radiation from radioactive materials can be more harmful.  This is not necessarily true.  It all depends on how much radiation is absorbed by the body.  Counter-intuitively, the higher the energy of the ray, the more likely it will pass right through you with little energy absorbtion.  The lower the ray&#8217;s energy, the more likely it is to be totally absorbed by the body.  </p>
<p>Actually, there are six factors that influence the hazard of a radioactive material: Type of emission; energy; half-life; quantity (typically described as Curies); decay path; and its chemical/physical form.  With X-rays only the energy and quantity (measured differently than radioactive materials) are necessary to determine the hazard as we already know the type of emission and the other factors aren&#8217;t applicable.  So as a radiaoactive material example: one atom of a high energy, gamma emitting, long half-life radioactive atom in your body is highly unlikely to give you any radiation in your life-time.   If you find this info interesting, we can keep up the dialogue &#8211; there is a lot more to say.  </p>
<p>There are a LOT more injuries from medical X-rays &#8211; usually during therapy or interventional procedures (such as heart studies where they are injecting dyes).   I&#8217;ve personally investigated a number of cases where a patient got skin burns from X-rays.   Yes, you can get hurt from large doses of radiation (X- or gamma rays), but we have absolutely no evidence that low doses are hurting anyone (I will differentiate that we have evidence that low doses will cause a change, however the evidence also seems to show that the body handles these changes quite readily. In other words, change doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean harm).     </p>
<p>I challenge you to find anyone in the USA who has gotten a large dose of radiation from a nuclear power reactor.   Even living next to a nuclear power station is not going to give you any extra radiation.   You could go visit a nuclear power plant, and I can assure you that you won&#8217;t get any radiation from the reactor.  I couldn&#8217;t guarantee that to be true at your local hospital (please, ask me why I say this).</p>
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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;6345&quot;]Xray is not the same as nuclear power or otherwise we would have people dying from xrays it&#039;s not the same and you can&#039;t get the same kind of problems.  Also xrays are only dangerous when they have a lot of them I think but that&#039;s different then a nuclear power generator or a bomb.[/quote]

There is no difference between a low energy gamma ray and a high energy xray.  There are isotopes with emit radiation which is basically identical to that from an X-ray machine.   It all is measured the same and has the same effect.  Ionizing radiation is the same damn thing whether from decay or a nuclear reaction or from an x-ray generator.

(I won&#039;t complicate this with neutrons)</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/if-nuclear-energy-kills-then-im-dead-3x-today/#comment-6345"><b>Dusty said:</b></a></p>
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Xray is not the same as nuclear power or otherwise we would have people dying from xrays it&#8217;s not the same and you can&#8217;t get the same kind of problems.  Also xrays are only dangerous when they have a lot of them I think but that&#8217;s different then a nuclear power generator or a bomb.</p>
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<p>There is no difference between a low energy gamma ray and a high energy xray.  There are isotopes with emit radiation which is basically identical to that from an X-ray machine.   It all is measured the same and has the same effect.  Ionizing radiation is the same damn thing whether from decay or a nuclear reaction or from an x-ray generator.</p>
<p>(I won&#8217;t complicate this with neutrons)</p>
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		<title>By: DV82XL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DV82XL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;6345&quot;]Xray is not the same as nuclear power or otherwise we would have people dying from xrays it&#039;s not the same and you can&#039;t get the same kind of problems.  Also xrays are only dangerous when they have a lot of them I think but that&#039;s different then a nuclear power generator or a bomb.[/quote]

Look up &quot;Ionizing Radiation&quot; on Google and get back to us on that one Dusty</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/if-nuclear-energy-kills-then-im-dead-3x-today/#comment-6345"><b>Dusty said:</b></a></p>
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Xray is not the same as nuclear power or otherwise we would have people dying from xrays it&#8217;s not the same and you can&#8217;t get the same kind of problems.  Also xrays are only dangerous when they have a lot of them I think but that&#8217;s different then a nuclear power generator or a bomb.</p>
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<p>Look up &#8220;Ionizing Radiation&#8221; on Google and get back to us on that one Dusty</p>
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		<title>By: Finrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;6345&quot;]Xray is not the same as nuclear power or otherwise we would have people dying from xrays it&#039;s not the same and you can&#039;t get the same kind of problems.  Also xrays are only dangerous when they have a lot of them I think but that&#039;s different then a nuclear power generator or a bomb.[/quote]

How do you know this?</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/if-nuclear-energy-kills-then-im-dead-3x-today/#comment-6345"><b>Dusty said:</b></a></p>
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Xray is not the same as nuclear power or otherwise we would have people dying from xrays it&#8217;s not the same and you can&#8217;t get the same kind of problems.  Also xrays are only dangerous when they have a lot of them I think but that&#8217;s different then a nuclear power generator or a bomb.</p>
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<p>How do you know this?</p>
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		<title>By: Dusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xray is not the same as nuclear power or otherwise we would have people dying from xrays it&#039;s not the same and you can&#039;t get the same kind of problems.  Also xrays are only dangerous when they have a lot of them I think but that&#039;s different then a nuclear power generator or a bomb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xray is not the same as nuclear power or otherwise we would have people dying from xrays it&#8217;s not the same and you can&#8217;t get the same kind of problems.  Also xrays are only dangerous when they have a lot of them I think but that&#8217;s different then a nuclear power generator or a bomb.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;6299&quot;]Also I should floss more than I do.[/quote]

Yeah, I think that they tell that to everybody.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/if-nuclear-energy-kills-then-im-dead-3x-today/#comment-6299"><b>drbuzz0 said:</b></a></p>
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Also I should floss more than I do.</p>
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<p>Yeah, I think that they tell that to everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbuzz0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;6297&quot;]So how are your teeth?[/quote]

No new cavities but I&#039;ve had a couple in the past and one of my fillings kinda needs some attention because it&#039;s not on as good as it should be. 

Also I should floss more than I do.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/if-nuclear-energy-kills-then-im-dead-3x-today/#comment-6297"><b>Brian said:</b></a></p>
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So how are your teeth?</p>
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<p>No new cavities but I&#8217;ve had a couple in the past and one of my fillings kinda needs some attention because it&#8217;s not on as good as it should be. </p>
<p>Also I should floss more than I do.</p>
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		<title>By: DV82XL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DV82XL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot to mention that the evil dentists actually use the dreaded toxin DU in dentures and other dental prosthetics to make the enamel on them bright. As well they have been poisoning us for years with &lt;i&gt;mercury&lt;/i&gt; of all things in our fillings. 

Their in cahoots with big medicine don&#039;t you know, to make us all sick so we have to buy their &#039;cures&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot to mention that the evil dentists actually use the dreaded toxin DU in dentures and other dental prosthetics to make the enamel on them bright. As well they have been poisoning us for years with <i>mercury</i> of all things in our fillings. </p>
<p>Their in cahoots with big medicine don&#8217;t you know, to make us all sick so we have to buy their &#8216;cures&#8217;.</p>
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