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	<title>Comments on: I would just appreciate a citation when my stuff is used</title>
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		<title>By: Rumpole</title>
		<link>http://depletedcranium.com/i-would-just-appreciate-a-citation-when-my-stuff-is-used/comment-page-1/#comment-15067</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumpole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, I think you&#039;re overreacting on the radiation comparison.  Your article is significantly more detailed; if someone was given a task to write a short essay about radiation, there is a limited number of highlights (sorry :-) ) - start with the Simpsons to catch the contemporary reader&#039;s attention (a.k.a. &quot;look, scientists aren&#039;t boring!&quot;) and then you&#039;ve got the bit about the Curies exposing themselves wittingly and unwittingly to radiation (a.k.a. &quot;look, isn&#039;t science risky if you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re doing - how much we&#039;ve learned!&quot;), and so it goes on.  I might equally suggest you took your article pretty much lock, stock and barrel from a young-ish kids physics textbook.  Standing on offended dignity - especially when the reason is baseless - usually just makes people look amusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, I think you&#8217;re overreacting on the radiation comparison.  Your article is significantly more detailed; if someone was given a task to write a short essay about radiation, there is a limited number of highlights (sorry <img src='http://depletedcranium.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) &#8211; start with the Simpsons to catch the contemporary reader&#8217;s attention (a.k.a. &#8220;look, scientists aren&#8217;t boring!&#8221;) and then you&#8217;ve got the bit about the Curies exposing themselves wittingly and unwittingly to radiation (a.k.a. &#8220;look, isn&#8217;t science risky if you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re doing &#8211; how much we&#8217;ve learned!&#8221;), and so it goes on.  I might equally suggest you took your article pretty much lock, stock and barrel from a young-ish kids physics textbook.  Standing on offended dignity &#8211; especially when the reason is baseless &#8211; usually just makes people look amusing.</p>
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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbuzz0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I was making a more general point than just this instance.  Also, as I said, I&#039;m not extremely upset about it.  I consider it more of an annoyance than anything else.

The DVD I bought is &quot;Apollo 11: Men on the moon.&quot;   It&#039;s a pretty good compolation of Apollo 11 films.   I don&#039;t know that you can say this footage was from digging through 1000&#039;s of cans, as it is actually not that obscure and it was never lost (unlike the television transmission tapes).   But still, it is an excellent DVD and credit is due to the makes, especially because some of the footage on it is more obscure and probably did require digging through the cans.

If you went to the post about it, you&#039;d notice that I did cite the name of the DVD it came from.   I also put a link to where you can buy the film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I was making a more general point than just this instance.  Also, as I said, I&#8217;m not extremely upset about it.  I consider it more of an annoyance than anything else.</p>
<p>The DVD I bought is &#8220;Apollo 11: Men on the moon.&#8221;   It&#8217;s a pretty good compolation of Apollo 11 films.   I don&#8217;t know that you can say this footage was from digging through 1000&#8217;s of cans, as it is actually not that obscure and it was never lost (unlike the television transmission tapes).   But still, it is an excellent DVD and credit is due to the makes, especially because some of the footage on it is more obscure and probably did require digging through the cans.</p>
<p>If you went to the post about it, you&#8217;d notice that I did cite the name of the DVD it came from.   I also put a link to where you can buy the film.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to say it, but as far as the moon footage goes, it sounds a bit like like whining to me. Why have you not in turn credited the DVD where you took it from?

I don&#039;t know where you got it from, but I have seen this on &quot;In the Shadow of the Moon&quot;, from 2007. Those people spend 100&#039;s of hours looking at 1000&#039;s of cans of NASA-stored film to make that movie. Credit where credit is due...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to say it, but as far as the moon footage goes, it sounds a bit like like whining to me. Why have you not in turn credited the DVD where you took it from?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where you got it from, but I have seen this on &#8220;In the Shadow of the Moon&#8221;, from 2007. Those people spend 100&#8217;s of hours looking at 1000&#8217;s of cans of NASA-stored film to make that movie. Credit where credit is due&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbuzz0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll post the same resonse I emailed to Jon in response to an email:

Don&#039;t be.  It was just an honest mistake.  I&#039;m just saying ...   It wasn&#039;t even my footage to begin with.  The footage I put up is officially a historic document/media in the ownership of the US National Archives and generally free for most use.   I sure as hell didn&#039;t fly to the moon to take it.  

I&#039;m also in no way claiming the need for any kind of praise or thanks.  It&#039;s just an issue of the fact that I appreciate getting a link.   Getting website traffic is always a difficult thing and attracting people through other sites is a big source.   Phil&#039;s site gets a lot of hits (Well deserved, I may add) because he&#039;s got an excellent site, he knows what he is talking about and he&#039;s been at it for a long time.   On occasions when I&#039;ve been mentioned on a site like Phil&#039;s it really helps my traffic, both because it gets me a bump in the short term and because it can effect crawlers and page ranks.

Now, obviously, I&#039;m not looking for a free handout or demanding that someone like Phil Plait start linking to me just for the good of my own site, but considering I posted that footage, it seems like getting a linkback would be nice.

It&#039;s not a huge deal.   Don&#039;t be embarrassed.

-Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll post the same resonse I emailed to Jon in response to an email:</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be.  It was just an honest mistake.  I&#8217;m just saying &#8230;   It wasn&#8217;t even my footage to begin with.  The footage I put up is officially a historic document/media in the ownership of the US National Archives and generally free for most use.   I sure as hell didn&#8217;t fly to the moon to take it.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also in no way claiming the need for any kind of praise or thanks.  It&#8217;s just an issue of the fact that I appreciate getting a link.   Getting website traffic is always a difficult thing and attracting people through other sites is a big source.   Phil&#8217;s site gets a lot of hits (Well deserved, I may add) because he&#8217;s got an excellent site, he knows what he is talking about and he&#8217;s been at it for a long time.   On occasions when I&#8217;ve been mentioned on a site like Phil&#8217;s it really helps my traffic, both because it gets me a bump in the short term and because it can effect crawlers and page ranks.</p>
<p>Now, obviously, I&#8217;m not looking for a free handout or demanding that someone like Phil Plait start linking to me just for the good of my own site, but considering I posted that footage, it seems like getting a linkback would be nice.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a huge deal.   Don&#8217;t be embarrassed.</p>
<p>-Steve</p>
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		<title>By: DV82XL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DV82XL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would seem that gentlemen, while an endangered species, are not extinct yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem that gentlemen, while an endangered species, are not extinct yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Donni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Donni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies, this was my fault.
I have added a link and credit, and also put the vid on my site.
http://badpsychics.co.uk/thefraudfiles/modules/news/article.php?storyid=944

Originally I posted the video on my own small video sharing site that gets sodall visitors, mainly just as filler as I dont put much on the site as it is used mainly for hosting for the videos for BadPsychics and my movie sites anyway I showed the vid to Phil Plait, and he put it on his site, in one day by hosting the vid it totally blew my bandwidth and now I have a hefty fine to pay to the server people, which could be seen as my own punishment, as well as having hundreds of my videos unavailable for my sites.

Again apologies, I just thought it was a cool video which someone had sent me the link to on youtube, I was not aware who had made the video and that it was done by the owner of the Depleted Cranium blog.

I have great respect for this site, and deeply regret causing offence.

Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies, this was my fault.<br />
I have added a link and credit, and also put the vid on my site.<br />
<a href="http://badpsychics.co.uk/thefraudfiles/modules/news/article.php?storyid=944" rel="nofollow">http://badpsychics.co.uk/thefraudfiles/modules/news/article.php?storyid=944</a></p>
<p>Originally I posted the video on my own small video sharing site that gets sodall visitors, mainly just as filler as I dont put much on the site as it is used mainly for hosting for the videos for BadPsychics and my movie sites anyway I showed the vid to Phil Plait, and he put it on his site, in one day by hosting the vid it totally blew my bandwidth and now I have a hefty fine to pay to the server people, which could be seen as my own punishment, as well as having hundreds of my videos unavailable for my sites.</p>
<p>Again apologies, I just thought it was a cool video which someone had sent me the link to on youtube, I was not aware who had made the video and that it was done by the owner of the Depleted Cranium blog.</p>
<p>I have great respect for this site, and deeply regret causing offence.</p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have good reason to want at least a link.  Yeah, website traffic and exposure is heavily based on word of mouth.   You didn&#039;t go to the moon and make that video but you could at least get the credit for putting it on the net.   It would be polite,

Oh yeah, the glow article is also totally a rehash of your article.  Too many similarities.  It notes the copper in the glow compound, which is something most probably would not mention.   It notes the same chemicals in the radium salts and says it in almost the same manner.  

It&#039;s nothing to get too upset about i don&#039;t think but it would have been nice to get a citation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have good reason to want at least a link.  Yeah, website traffic and exposure is heavily based on word of mouth.   You didn&#8217;t go to the moon and make that video but you could at least get the credit for putting it on the net.   It would be polite,</p>
<p>Oh yeah, the glow article is also totally a rehash of your article.  Too many similarities.  It notes the copper in the glow compound, which is something most probably would not mention.   It notes the same chemicals in the radium salts and says it in almost the same manner.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s nothing to get too upset about i don&#8217;t think but it would have been nice to get a citation.</p>
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