Comments on: Homeopathic Students On Hunger Strike? http://depletedcranium.com/homeopathic-students-on-hunger-strike/ Bad Science And Scary Science Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:55:00 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: drbuzz0 http://depletedcranium.com/homeopathic-students-on-hunger-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-17862 drbuzz0 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:25:21 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=1866#comment-17862 [quote comment="17859"]Come on what has happened to people now a days? has everyone lost faith in natural remedy??? [/quote] Plenty of natural remedies work. Asprin is natural (or in most cases a synthetic version of a natural compound). Penecillin is a natural material generated by Penicillium mold cells. Lithium salts (as used to treat bipolar disorder) can be found in nature. Many legitimate medications are extracted from naturally occurring material. Homeopathy is the problem. It's absolutely useless in all cases. It's not even "Natural" - it's a dumb idea invented by a single guy in 1798 Oh and also.. I don't have "faith" in any medicine. I accept the scientific facts, but I don't have "faith" in that kind of thing. [quote comment="17859"] I think many people are not taking homepathy seriously as the treatment is cheap and so are the medicines, until and unless they dont get robbed out of their pockets they dont feel they are cured. gosh people now a days are just impossible...[/quote] No.. it's because homeopathy is impossible. It's not only bunk, it's stupid. The whole concept behind it is downright moronic. It's not even an invalid scientific hypothesis. It's just batshit crazy and totally laughably absurdly idiotic. Lets call it what it is. It does not deserve to be elevated to the level of any concept that has even a grain of credible logic to it. The whole thing should be ridiculed because it is ridiculous. It deserves no respect. It's so dumb it's like the butt of a bad joke. more here: http://depletedcranium.com/?p=2828

        Kelvin said:

Come on what has happened to people now a days? has everyone lost faith in natural remedy???

Plenty of natural remedies work. Asprin is natural (or in most cases a synthetic version of a natural compound). Penecillin is a natural material generated by Penicillium mold cells. Lithium salts (as used to treat bipolar disorder) can be found in nature. Many legitimate medications are extracted from naturally occurring material.

Homeopathy is the problem. It’s absolutely useless in all cases. It’s not even “Natural” – it’s a dumb idea invented by a single guy in 1798

Oh and also.. I don’t have “faith” in any medicine. I accept the scientific facts, but I don’t have “faith” in that kind of thing.

        Kelvin said:

I think many people are not taking homepathy seriously as the treatment is cheap and so are the medicines, until and unless they dont get robbed out of their pockets they dont feel they are cured. gosh people now a days are just impossible…

No.. it’s because homeopathy is impossible. It’s not only bunk, it’s stupid. The whole concept behind it is downright moronic. It’s not even an invalid scientific hypothesis. It’s just bat**** crazy and totally laughably absurdly idiotic.

Lets call it what it is. It does not deserve to be elevated to the level of any concept that has even a grain of credible logic to it. The whole thing should be ridiculed because it is ridiculous. It deserves no respect. It’s so dumb it’s like the butt of a bad joke.

more here: http://depletedcranium.com/?p=2828

]]> By: Kelvin http://depletedcranium.com/homeopathic-students-on-hunger-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-17859 Kelvin Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:49:26 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=1866#comment-17859 Come on what has happened to people now a days? has everyone lost faith in natural remedy??? I think many people are not taking homepathy seriously as the treatment is cheap and so are the medicines, until and unless they dont get robbed out of their pockets they dont feel they are cured. gosh people now a days are just impossible... Come on what has happened to people now a days? has everyone lost faith in natural remedy??? I think many people are not taking homepathy seriously as the treatment is cheap and so are the medicines, until and unless they dont get robbed out of their pockets they dont feel they are cured. gosh people now a days are just impossible…

]]> By: drbuzz0 http://depletedcranium.com/homeopathic-students-on-hunger-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-15030 drbuzz0 Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:25:11 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=1866#comment-15030 [quote comment="15001"]If homeopathy works, then obviously the less you use it, the stronger it gets. So the best way to apply homeopathy is to not use it at all. Quod erat demonstrandum.[/quote] That's apparently not how it works. I mean, sure it seems like that would be the logical extension, but at some point it becomes important to take the medicine, or rather the water or whatever other filler material is used for dilusion. Why this apparent twist in logic? Because if they conceded that it's better to just not take it then they wouldn't make any money! I mean come on, isn't that what this is about anyway?

        DV82XL said:

If homeopathy works, then obviously the less you use it, the stronger it gets. So the best way to apply homeopathy is to not use it at all.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

That’s apparently not how it works. I mean, sure it seems like that would be the logical extension, but at some point it becomes important to take the medicine, or rather the water or whatever other filler material is used for dilusion. Why this apparent twist in logic? Because if they conceded that it’s better to just not take it then they wouldn’t make any money! I mean come on, isn’t that what this is about anyway?

]]> By: DV82XL http://depletedcranium.com/homeopathic-students-on-hunger-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-15001 DV82XL Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:43:29 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=1866#comment-15001 If homeopathy works, then obviously the less you use it, the stronger it gets. So the best way to apply homeopathy is to not use it at all. Quod erat demonstrandum. If homeopathy works, then obviously the less you use it, the stronger it gets. So the best way to apply homeopathy is to not use it at all.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

]]> By: Quack Hunting http://depletedcranium.com/homeopathic-students-on-hunger-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-15000 Quack Hunting Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:40:59 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=1866#comment-15000 HA! Have you ever heard of committing 'homeopathic suicide'? James Randi did it a couple of times and its a stunt that is performed by skeptics to debunk homeopathy. They take a whole bottle or two of homeopathic medicine that you're only supposed to take one pill of and then wait to die in protest of homeopathy, but of course it doesn't happen because you can't overdose on an empty pill. Randi has done really well in going after homeopathy. He uses the same kind of backhanded humor and has really gotten them ruffled a few times. HA! Have you ever heard of committing ‘homeopathic suicide’? James Randi did it a couple of times and its a stunt that is performed by skeptics to debunk homeopathy. They take a whole bottle or two of homeopathic medicine that you’re only supposed to take one pill of and then wait to die in protest of homeopathy, but of course it doesn’t happen because you can’t overdose on an empty pill.

Randi has done really well in going after homeopathy. He uses the same kind of backhanded humor and has really gotten them ruffled a few times.

]]> By: Finrod http://depletedcranium.com/homeopathic-students-on-hunger-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-14985 Finrod Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:03:31 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=1866#comment-14985 [quote comment="14981"]Traditional doctors do not use chemicals. It is not toxic and has not the side effects of other medical methods. It is natural and that is important. It may not cure disease all the time. It is more to stop disease from coming to begin so good health continues with good nutrition, organic foods and no chemicals, good medicine. It works with the body to keep it in balance and use the internal healing forces. homeopathy treats the person different. There are three parts to us all and those are the mind the body and the spirit. if you treat the spirit then the mind and the body will become healthy.[/quote] Don't certain "traditional medicines" involve heavy metal tinctures, such as solutions of gold or mercury? Paracelsus and various traditional Chinese doctors were big on that sort of thing, weren't they? And all their medical theories were firmly planted in their respective spiritual beliefs. I think I'd have a bit more respect for homeopathic practitioners if they had the courage of their convictions that Paracelsus had, and acknowledged it as a magical practice, rather than trying to pretend its a scientific practice.

        Juan said:

Traditional doctors do not use chemicals. It is not toxic and has not the side effects of other medical methods.

It is natural and that is important.

It may not cure disease all the time.

It is more to stop disease from coming to begin so good health continues with good nutrition, organic foods and no chemicals, good medicine.

It works with the body to keep it in balance and use the internal healing forces. homeopathy treats the person different.

There are three parts to us all and those are the mind the body and the spirit. if you treat the spirit then the mind and the body will become healthy.

Don’t certain “traditional medicines” involve heavy metal tinctures, such as solutions of gold or mercury? Paracelsus and various traditional Chinese doctors were big on that sort of thing, weren’t they? And all their medical theories were firmly planted in their respective spiritual beliefs.

I think I’d have a bit more respect for homeopathic practitioners if they had the courage of their convictions that Paracelsus had, and acknowledged it as a magical practice, rather than trying to pretend its a scientific practice.

]]> By: Juan http://depletedcranium.com/homeopathic-students-on-hunger-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-14981 Juan Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:15:04 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=1866#comment-14981 Traditional doctors do not use chemicals. It is not toxic and has not the side effects of other medical methods. It is natural and that is important. It may not cure disease all the time. It is more to stop disease from coming to begin so good health continues with good nutrition, organic foods and no chemicals, good medicine. It works with the body to keep it in balance and use the internal healing forces. homeopathy treats the person different. There are three parts to us all and those are the mind the body and the spirit. if you treat the spirit then the mind and the body will become healthy. Traditional doctors do not use chemicals. It is not toxic and has not the side effects of other medical methods. It is natural and that is important. It may not cure disease all the time. It is more to stop disease from coming to begin so good health continues with good nutrition, organic foods and no chemicals, good medicine. It works with the body to keep it in balance and use the internal healing forces. homeopathy treats the person different. There are three parts to us all and those are the mind the body and the spirit. if you treat the spirit then the mind and the body will become healthy.

]]> By: drbuzz0 http://depletedcranium.com/homeopathic-students-on-hunger-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-14974 drbuzz0 Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:31:32 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=1866#comment-14974 [quote comment="14971"]Self-immolation is totally badass, I still remember the monks that lit themselves up in Vietnam during the war. I had a lot of respect for them - it takes stainless steel balls to soak yourself with gas and then flick your Bic. Now that's a protest.[/quote] Yeah, or just crazy. I was reading something about the guys who pulled that at the Pentagon or in Washington as part of a political protest. It seems that at least one of them was really a genuine nut and apparently was on LSD at the time. As far as hunger strikes go, one time there was a guy who didn't eat for 45 days while in a glass box over London. He was protesting lack of publicity and demanding that he be put on TV and paid for his actions. He furthermore was demanding that an event be made of it and that it be declared a magic trick, even though it wasn't really an illusion... just a guy not eating for a while.

        DV82XL said:

Self-immolation is totally badass, I still remember the monks that lit themselves up in Vietnam during the war. I had a lot of respect for them – it takes stainless steel balls to soak yourself with gas and then flick your Bic. Now that’s a protest.

Yeah, or just crazy. I was reading something about the guys who pulled that at the Pentagon or in Washington as part of a political protest. It seems that at least one of them was really a genuine nut and apparently was on LSD at the time.

As far as hunger strikes go, one time there was a guy who didn’t eat for 45 days while in a glass box over London. He was protesting lack of publicity and demanding that he be put on TV and paid for his actions. He furthermore was demanding that an event be made of it and that it be declared a magic trick, even though it wasn’t really an illusion… just a guy not eating for a while.

]]> By: DV82XL http://depletedcranium.com/homeopathic-students-on-hunger-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-14971 DV82XL Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:03:25 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=1866#comment-14971 [quote comment="14969"]"Actually, I'm a little surprised none of them have enough convictions to try the rather more drastic protest maneuvers you see from time to time in Asia. Hunger strikes are amateurish by Asian standards. Sewing ones mouth shut? Impalement? Severing digits? Self-immolation? Seppuku? (Yeah, that's Japanese and not Indian, I know, but it's been done as a rather gruesome form of protest.)[/quote] Self-immolation is totally badass, I still remember the monks that lit themselves up in Vietnam during the war. I had a lot of respect for them - it takes stainless steel balls to soak yourself with gas and then flick your Bic. Now that's a protest.

        Calli Arcale said:

“Actually, I’m a little surprised none of them have enough convictions to try the rather more drastic protest maneuvers you see from time to time in Asia. Hunger strikes are amateurish by Asian standards. Sewing ones mouth shut? Impalement? Severing digits? Self-immolation? Seppuku? (Yeah, that’s Japanese and not Indian, I know, but it’s been done as a rather gruesome form of protest.)

Self-immolation is totally badass, I still remember the monks that lit themselves up in Vietnam during the war. I had a lot of respect for them – it takes stainless steel balls to soak yourself with gas and then flick your Bic. Now that’s a protest.

]]> By: Calli Arcale http://depletedcranium.com/homeopathic-students-on-hunger-strike/comment-page-1/#comment-14969 Calli Arcale Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:44:39 +0000 http://depletedcranium.com/?p=1866#comment-14969 "Unfortunately, the hunger strike is not going so well. The students had hoped that images showing them wasting away with hunger and getting thinner each day would tug at the heartstrings of the public and politicians. However, it seems that a single molecule of a powerful weight loss drug found its way into the local water supply and now all the ‘hunger strike’ participants are morbidly obese." *hoots* FOR THE WIN!!!! Actually, I'm a little surprised none of them have enough convictions to try the rather more drastic protest maneuvers you see from time to time in Asia. Hunger strikes are amateurish by Asian standards. Sewing ones mouth shut? Impalement? Severing digits? Self-immolation? Seppuku? (Yeah, that's Japanese and not Indian, I know, but it's been done as a rather gruesome form of protest.) “Unfortunately, the hunger strike is not going so well. The students had hoped that images showing them wasting away with hunger and getting thinner each day would tug at the heartstrings of the public and politicians. However, it seems that a single molecule of a powerful weight loss drug found its way into the local water supply and now all the ‘hunger strike’ participants are morbidly obese.”

*hoots* FOR THE WIN!!!!

Actually, I’m a little surprised none of them have enough convictions to try the rather more drastic protest maneuvers you see from time to time in Asia. Hunger strikes are amateurish by Asian standards. Sewing ones mouth shut? Impalement? Severing digits? Self-immolation? Seppuku? (Yeah, that’s Japanese and not Indian, I know, but it’s been done as a rather gruesome form of protest.)

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