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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;19700&quot;]The bottom line is that the attitude of any given nation&#039;s nuclear regulator is inversely proportional to the size and importance of the fossil fuel sector in that country.

It that isn&#039;t a smoking gun in and of itself, I don&#039;t know what is.[/quote]
I don&#039;t think the &quot;Arthur Scargill&quot; motive is so significant in Germany - isn&#039;t much of German coal mining done on an open-cast basis?  (NOT very good for job creation...)

I think it&#039;s more likely that Germany had an extremely strong anti-nuclear-weapons movement (remember the old joke about &quot;A tactical nuclear weapon is a nuclear weapon which lands on Germany&quot;) and that this subsequently fed into the anti-nuclear-power movement.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/hey-hey-ho-ho-the-nrc-has-got-to-go/#comment-19700"><b>DV82XL said:</b></a></p>
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The bottom line is that the attitude of any given nation&#8217;s nuclear regulator is inversely proportional to the size and importance of the fossil fuel sector in that country.</p>
<p>It that isn&#8217;t a smoking gun in and of itself, I don&#8217;t know what is.</p>
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<p>I don&#8217;t think the &#8220;Arthur Scargill&#8221; motive is so significant in Germany &#8211; isn&#8217;t much of German coal mining done on an open-cast basis?  (NOT very good for job creation&#8230;)</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s more likely that Germany had an extremely strong anti-nuclear-weapons movement (remember the old joke about &#8220;A tactical nuclear weapon is a nuclear weapon which lands on Germany&#8221;) and that this subsequently fed into the anti-nuclear-power movement.</p>
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		<title>By: BMS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;19694&quot;] .... that is clearly the SECOND worst example of government-sponsored misinformation and propaganda aimed at scapegoating ever to occur in modern German history[/quote]

Indeed. It&#039;s so shameless, it would have made even Goebbels proud.

[quote comment=&quot;19700&quot;]The bottom line is that the attitude of any given nation&#039;s nuclear regulator is inversely proportional to the size and importance of the fossil fuel sector in that country. ...[/quote]

Don&#039;t forget that last March the head of this ministry, Sigmar Gabriel, emphatically explained to the press that Germany must build 8 to 10 new coal plants if they are going to phase out their nuclear fleet.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/hey-hey-ho-ho-the-nrc-has-got-to-go/#comment-19694"><b>drbuzz0 said:</b></a></p>
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 &#8230;. that is clearly the SECOND worst example of government-sponsored misinformation and propaganda aimed at scapegoating ever to occur in modern German history</p>
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<p>Indeed. It&#8217;s so shameless, it would have made even Goebbels proud.</p>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/hey-hey-ho-ho-the-nrc-has-got-to-go/#comment-19700"><b>DV82XL said:</b></a></p>
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The bottom line is that the attitude of any given nation&#8217;s nuclear regulator is inversely proportional to the size and importance of the fossil fuel sector in that country. &#8230;</p>
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<p>Don&#8217;t forget that last March the head of this ministry, Sigmar Gabriel, emphatically explained to the press that Germany must build 8 to 10 new coal plants if they are going to phase out their nuclear fleet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Ribeiro</title>
		<link>http://depletedcranium.com/hey-hey-ho-ho-the-nrc-has-got-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-19702</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Ribeiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;19694&quot;]Wow, that is clearly the worst example of government-sponsored misinformation and propaganda aimed at scapegoating ever to occur in modern German history..... uh....wait....ahem....  that is clearly the SECOND worst example of government-sponsored misinformation and propaganda aimed at scapegoating ever to occur in modern German history[/quote]

I think you found the material needed for another Depleted Cranium post with this document.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/hey-hey-ho-ho-the-nrc-has-got-to-go/#comment-19694"><b>drbuzz0 said:</b></a></p>
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Wow, that is clearly the worst example of government-sponsored misinformation and propaganda aimed at scapegoating ever to occur in modern German history&#8230;.. uh&#8230;.wait&#8230;.ahem&#8230;.  that is clearly the SECOND worst example of government-sponsored misinformation and propaganda aimed at scapegoating ever to occur in modern German history</p>
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<p>I think you found the material needed for another Depleted Cranium post with this document.</p>
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		<title>By: DV82XL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DV82XL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line is that the attitude of any given nation&#039;s nuclear regulator is inversely proportional to the size and importance of the fossil fuel sector in that country.

It that isn&#039;t a smoking gun in and of itself, I don&#039;t know what is.</description>
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<p>It that isn&#8217;t a smoking gun in and of itself, I don&#8217;t know what is.</p>
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		<title>By: soylent</title>
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		<dc:creator>soylent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;19694&quot;]Wow, that is clearly the worst example of government-sponsored misinformation and propaganda aimed at scapegoating ever to occur in modern German history..... uh....wait....ahem....  that is clearly the SECOND worst example of government-sponsored misinformation and propaganda aimed at scapegoating ever to occur in modern German history[/quote]

Oh, I don&#039;t know. Just because it hasn&#039;t killed more people than &quot;the final solution&quot; [i]yet[/i] doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not going to eventually.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/hey-hey-ho-ho-the-nrc-has-got-to-go/#comment-19694"><b>drbuzz0 said:</b></a></p>
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Wow, that is clearly the worst example of government-sponsored misinformation and propaganda aimed at scapegoating ever to occur in modern German history&#8230;.. uh&#8230;.wait&#8230;.ahem&#8230;.  that is clearly the SECOND worst example of government-sponsored misinformation and propaganda aimed at scapegoating ever to occur in modern German history</p>
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<p>Oh, I don&#8217;t know. Just because it hasn&#8217;t killed more people than &#8220;the final solution&#8221; [i]yet[/i] doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not going to eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbuzz0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;19689&quot;]Heh ... If you think that the NRC is bad, you should &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.erneuerbare-energien.de/inhalt/42594/4590/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;take a look at Germany&#039;s regulator and what they publish on their website&lt;/a&gt;. They even publish a little brochure (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.erneuerbare-energien.de/files/pdfs/allgemein/application/pdf/akw_faq_bf.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PDF&lt;/a&gt;, in German) with pictures.

Now there&#039;s a regulator that Bruce can like. ;-)[/quote]


Wow, that is clearly the worst example of government-sponsored misinformation and propaganda aimed at scapegoating ever to occur in modern German history..... uh....wait....ahem....  that is clearly the SECOND worst example of government-sponsored misinformation and propaganda aimed at scapegoating ever to occur in modern German history</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/hey-hey-ho-ho-the-nrc-has-got-to-go/#comment-19689"><b>BMS said:</b></a></p>
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Heh &#8230; If you think that the NRC is bad, you should <a href="http://www.erneuerbare-energien.de/inhalt/42594/4590/" rel="nofollow">take a look at Germany&#8217;s regulator and what they publish on their website</a>. They even publish a little brochure (<a href="http://www.erneuerbare-energien.de/files/pdfs/allgemein/application/pdf/akw_faq_bf.pdf" rel="nofollow">PDF</a>, in German) with pictures.</p>
<p>Now there&#8217;s a regulator that Bruce can like. <img src='http://depletedcranium.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>Wow, that is clearly the worst example of government-sponsored misinformation and propaganda aimed at scapegoating ever to occur in modern German history&#8230;.. uh&#8230;.wait&#8230;.ahem&#8230;.  that is clearly the SECOND worst example of government-sponsored misinformation and propaganda aimed at scapegoating ever to occur in modern German history</p>
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		<title>By: George Carty</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Carty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;19690&quot;]Wow, I don&#039;t even read German and this seems like a biased document[/quote]
Now &lt;i&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; an understatement!  The title page reads &quot;Atomic power: an expensive wrong turn - the myth of the atomic economy&quot;.

Anyone here who has a better knowledge of German than myself, who&#039;d like to have a stab at preparing a counter-propaganda document?</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/hey-hey-ho-ho-the-nrc-has-got-to-go/#comment-19690"><b>Jason Ribeiro said:</b></a></p>
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Wow, I don&#8217;t even read German and this seems like a biased document</p>
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<p>Now <i>that&#8217;s</i> an understatement!  The title page reads &#8220;Atomic power: an expensive wrong turn &#8211; the myth of the atomic economy&#8221;.</p>
<p>Anyone here who has a better knowledge of German than myself, who&#8217;d like to have a stab at preparing a counter-propaganda document?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Ribeiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Ribeiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;19689&quot;] ... They even publish a little brochure (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.erneuerbare-energien.de/files/pdfs/allgemein/application/pdf/akw_faq_bf.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PDF&lt;/a&gt;, in German) with pictures.

Now there&#039;s a regulator that Bruce can like. ;-)[/quote]
  
Wow, I don&#039;t even read German and this seems like a biased document. It has themes of warning, danger and protest with the nuclear pictures and fun green valleys with wind turbines and solar panels.  What happened to the German heritage that had a deep respect for science?</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/hey-hey-ho-ho-the-nrc-has-got-to-go/#comment-19689"><b>BMS said:</b></a></p>
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 &#8230; They even publish a little brochure (<a href="http://www.erneuerbare-energien.de/files/pdfs/allgemein/application/pdf/akw_faq_bf.pdf" rel="nofollow">PDF</a>, in German) with pictures.</p>
<p>Now there&#8217;s a regulator that Bruce can like. <img src='http://depletedcranium.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>Wow, I don&#8217;t even read German and this seems like a biased document. It has themes of warning, danger and protest with the nuclear pictures and fun green valleys with wind turbines and solar panels.  What happened to the German heritage that had a deep respect for science?</p>
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		<title>By: BMS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh ... If you think that the NRC is bad, you should &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.erneuerbare-energien.de/inhalt/42594/4590/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;take a look at Germany&#039;s regulator and what they publish on their website&lt;/a&gt;. They even publish a little brochure (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.erneuerbare-energien.de/files/pdfs/allgemein/application/pdf/akw_faq_bf.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PDF&lt;/a&gt;, in German) with pictures.

Now there&#039;s a regulator that Bruce can like. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh &#8230; If you think that the NRC is bad, you should <a href="http://www.erneuerbare-energien.de/inhalt/42594/4590/" rel="nofollow">take a look at Germany&#8217;s regulator and what they publish on their website</a>. They even publish a little brochure (<a href="http://www.erneuerbare-energien.de/files/pdfs/allgemein/application/pdf/akw_faq_bf.pdf" rel="nofollow">PDF</a>, in German) with pictures.</p>
<p>Now there&#8217;s a regulator that Bruce can like. <img src='http://depletedcranium.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jason Ribeiro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Ribeiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I heard that the AP1000&#039;s design was called into question by the NRC, I was a bit shocked but after reading this, I need to remind myself that I shouldn&#039;t be.  I thought the AP1000 was all wrapped up and ready to go so it seems rather amazing that something so fundamental and conspicuous as the containment building would have been &quot;overlooked&quot; in the first place.   It&#039;s an excellent design and we ought to be building 50 of them simultaneously this very moment.  What does it say about us now as a country if the Chinese can build the same design better, faster, and cheaper than we can?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I heard that the AP1000&#8217;s design was called into question by the NRC, I was a bit shocked but after reading this, I need to remind myself that I shouldn&#8217;t be.  I thought the AP1000 was all wrapped up and ready to go so it seems rather amazing that something so fundamental and conspicuous as the containment building would have been &#8220;overlooked&#8221; in the first place.   It&#8217;s an excellent design and we ought to be building 50 of them simultaneously this very moment.  What does it say about us now as a country if the Chinese can build the same design better, faster, and cheaper than we can?</p>
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