Government COFFINS! OMG RUN!

February 19th, 2009

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What could be more sinister than a big area full of coffins? How about a big area full of plastic burial vaults? These are reinforced plastic boxes which are used for burying remains in cemeteries. Many cemeteries require that coffins are surrounded by a vault of some kind, because it prevents the ground from collapsing if the coffin begins to rot. This can be a real safety issue when a vehicle, such as a hearse drives over a grave. So if you see thousands of these things lined up, it must mean somebody is planning for a lot of deaths and that somebody must be the government!

Yes, a big field full of burial vaults in Georgia can only mean that the government is planning on exterminating the population. Also, it means that the government is at least giving everyone a private burial and not resorting to mass graves or just dumping bodies in landfills. Which I guess is nice, because they’re being respectful about the whole thing, right?

Well, that is the conclusion that a number of websites focusing on conspiracy theories have come to when they found out that a large number of such burial vaults were piled up in Georgia. It must be a FEMA conspiracy, right? That’s what the word is at Above Top Secret, Alex Jones’s Infowars and at “Survive Martial Law.” Even sites like Yahoo Answers have questions about how to survive the extermination (which is assumed to be happening in 2012, because that’s a date people like to pretend is special.)




I know, that video doesn’t make much sense. If they were killing people in such large numbers why not just bury them in mass graves on the spot? or even landfills? Why not burn them in piles? Or if stored in boxes, why bother with these nice ones when cheap particle board would do? Clearly it’s just grasping at straws to come up with a sinister explanation. This video is not unique either, Youtube has numerous of such videos about these casket liners/burial vaults.

Also, I’m not entirely sure what CT’ers are thinking now that their favorite villian GW Bush is out of office. Perhaps they think Obama is part of the plan too or that he’s simply a puppet for Bush and Cheney. Some have insisted that the public leaders of the nations of the world are just figureheads controlled by a secret underground leadership anyway.

Now the truth:

These are indeed burial vaults and they are for dead people, but the rest of the information being circulated is generally not true. For one thing, they are not made by Polyguard. There has been some confusion because the government has bought large numbers of burial vaults from Polyguard and may have stored them in other locations for use in burrials by the Department of Veterans Affairs (there are over one thousand veterans from World War II who die each day, so the VA has indeed purchased huge numbers of burial vaults.)

Some have speculated this is really a backdoor way of stocking up on the vaults in order to avoid being noticed. However, the facility which is most commonly noted for being the location where the vaults are stored is not government related and does not contain Polyguard products. Instead, the vaults there are produced by Vantage Products of Georgia but are otherwise pretty much the same thing.

Here’s what a local paper, the Morgan County Citizen had to say about the matter:

“Yep, these are cheap plastic coffins. Hundreds of thousands of them. Don’t believe it? Why coffins? Why in the middle of Georgia?†the entry “Half a Million Plastic Coffins?†on Alex Jones’ Infowars.com, dated July 18, states. “Well, apparently the Government is expecting a half million people to die relatively soon, and the Atlanta Airport is a major airline traffic hub, probably the biggest in the country, which means Georgia is a prime base to conduct military operations and coordination. It is also the home of the CDC, the Center for Disease Control. I don’t want to alarm anyone, but usually you don’t buy 500,000 plastic coffins ‘just in case something happens,’ you buy them because you know something is going to happen. These air tight seal containers would be perfect to bury victims of plague or biological warfare in, wouldn’t they?â€

While the origins of the theories are unclear, there are blog postings that date back to December 2007 (AboveTopSecret.com), although the majority of postings have come within the latter half of July.

And, according to Vantage Products Corporation Vice President of Operations Michael Lacey, that’s exactly when the calls started pouring in.

“It’s been going on for quite a while, about a week,†Lacey said.

Lacey maintains that the theories regarding the property, and what’s on it, aren’t quite accurate.

The “coffins†aren’t coffins at all, according to Lacey. Instead, they are burial vaults, “the outer container for caskets,†Lacey said, placed in the ground before the coffin to protect the coffin and maintain level ground above.

There are currently 50,000 of these burial vaults on the property, according to Lacey. As the vaults were placed on the site around 1997 or 1998, there may have been as many as 70,000 or 80,000 to begin with.

“It’s nowhere near the quantity they talk about on the Internet,†Lacey said.

This quantity of burial vaults, Vantage’s Standard Air Seal model in black, also the least expensive model and the most in-demand, was made to cater to what Lacey calls the funeral industry’s “pre-need.†This “pre-need†occurs when people make arrangements for their funeral before they actually pass away, so that the family doesn’t have to go through the perceived stress of making the arrangements. When these arrangements are made, the products are paid for; obviously, though, they are not yet needed.

So, Vantage stores the product until the person dies, and the product is needed.

Further, pallets of the burial vaults are moved truckloads at a time, as there is space for a palate at the

Contrary to the beliefs of the theorists, then, the burial vaults aren’t owned by the government, or FEMA. Instead, they’re owned by individuals, or not yet sold.

“They’re not owned by any one individual, company or the government,†Lacey said.

Hmm.. seems like a reasonable explanation to me. Probably more so than they are part of a big conspiracy to kill everyone.


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23 Responses to “Government COFFINS! OMG RUN!”

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    DV82XL Says:

    Are you telling me that given a choice between believing that some business is maintaining an inventory of their product and a sinister, secret government conspiracy to slaughter a significant fraction of the population for no apparent reason, you would select the former explanation as being more probable?

    My God are you naïve!


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    Anonymous Says:

    Most of the things Alex Jones, his followers and other conspiracy theorists alike say I call bull****, but as I said on another post my rational train of thought often goes off track when the issue of personal safety is involved. I guess I’m a very weak minded individual, I’ve been having awful panic attacks over this lately and I can’t get over it, I need to seek help but I don’t want to seem crazy…. Too late, I guess.

    What are your thoughts on NLE09?

    http://www.fema.gov/media/fact_sheets/nle09.shtm


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    DV82XL Says:

            Anonymous said:

    Most of the things Alex Jones, his followers and other conspiracy theorists alike say I call bull****, but as I said on another post my rational train of thought often goes off track when the issue of personal safety is involved. I guess I’m a very weak minded individual, I’ve been having awful panic attacks over this lately and I can’t get over it, I need to seek help but I don’t want to seem crazy…. Too late, I guess.

    Seriously my friend you do need help, and you should seek it before you do cross the Rubicon, There is still enough rationality in you to realize you are getting sick, soon even that will engulfed by your paranoia and it will be a long way back.

    See a doctor now. This can be dealt with.


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    Russ Says:

    There is (or was 15 years ago) a plastics factory in Wisconsin that produced large items which were commonly stored in a couple of fields and old parking lots in the area near the factory. They usually would have a very large production run of a given item and then switch to something else, as this is more effecient than producing them all at once. This way they would only change the molds once for each item. Consequently, you would see thousands of trash bins stacked in a field and then next to them, thousands of plastic septic tanks and then next to that thousands of prefab plastic sheds etc. One thing I remember distinctly was driving past one of the areas and there were several hundred if not thousand of those plastic igloo-shaped dog houses. I was a little surprised there would be such demand for those dog houses, but oh well. That was likely a supply for quite some time.


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    Anonymous Says:

            DV82XL said:

    Seriously my friend you do need help, and you should seek it before you do cross the Rubicon, There is still enough rationality in you to realize you are getting sick, soon even that will engulfed by your paranoia and it will be a long way back.

    See a doctor now. This can be dealt with.

    I saw a doctor a while back for what I thought was a serious illness (I was having panic attacks over that too) they suggested a psychiatrist and she just prescribed me Xanax. I didn’t use them for that visit but once I came across this I used it once. On the pill I had random bursts of laughter while thinking horrid thoughts at the same time. Due to my experience I don’t believe medication can really help, I’ve been looking up breathing exercises for panic attacks but they don’t really work either.


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    DV82XL Says:

            Anonymous said:

    I saw a doctor a while back for what I thought was a serious illness (I was having panic attacks over that too) they suggested a psychiatrist and she just prescribed me Xanax. I didn’t use them for that visit but once I came across this I used it once. On the pill I had random bursts of laughter while thinking horrid thoughts at the same time. Due to my experience I don’t believe medication can really help, I’ve been looking up breathing exercises for panic attacks but they don’t really work either.

    Listen carefully.

    Xanax, and other benzodiazepine-class medications are not for everyone. As with most drugs prescribed for mood disorders, it is important to tell you doctor if you are not getting any relief, or are suffering side effects, There are other anti-anxiety medications available that may help without causing you other problems.

    Anxiety attacks, can be an indication of the onset of more serious psychiatric disorders, were I you, I would move quickly to place myself in care before more serious and debilitating symptoms manifest themselves.


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    drbuzz0 Says:

            Anonymous said:

    I saw a doctor a while back for what I thought was a serious illness (I was having panic attacks over that too) they suggested a psychiatrist and she just prescribed me Xanax. I didn’t use them for that visit but once I came across this I used it once. On the pill I had random bursts of laughter while thinking horrid thoughts at the same time. Due to my experience I don’t believe medication can really help, I’ve been looking up breathing exercises for panic attacks but they don’t really work either.

    I’m not a doctor but I believe Xanax is the kind of medication that is taken occasionally or when symptoms happen and you need to calm down – as opposed to something like Paxil, Zoloft etc which are taken generally on a daily basis for continuous symptom management. (Again, I’m not a doctor, that’s just my understanding.)

    This is something I generally avoid ever talking about, but I have had some issues in the past that I’ve taken medication for. It wasn’t a huge deal and I didn’t need a high dose, but I’m glad I did. It wasn’t absolutely necessary – I could have bit the bullet and bared it but anti-anxiety medication helped.

    For me, I found that there were some things I got stressed out about (which is not in and of itself unusual for any healthy individual), however I found that some issues were almost impossible to get off my mind. I’d be stressed over something and I couldn’t stop thinking about it, even when I was trying to do something else I’d continue to feel anxiety over an issue. Certain things would stick in the back of my mind longer than they should. It made sleep difficult and that made things worse.

    One issue is I got a lot of completely wrong diagnoses from untrained friends who thought they were doing the right thing by being an amateur doctor and telling me I either had OCD or something. A bunch of people told me I had OCD. When I finally did see a doctor about it, he told me it was not OCD because I didn’t manifest symptoms of compulsions or have multiple obsessive worries. He said that it was just general anxiety with some aspects of repetitive thought anxiety.

    In any case, the use of some anti-anxiety medication combined with cognitive behavior therapy made it a lot easier to stop focusing on worrisome issues and get things back in perspective.

    I was reluctant to go to any kind of professional, I think in part becasue I am normally very good at dealing with pressure and stress. In general, I take anxiety relatively well on my own up to a point of what you might call “critical mass” after this tipping point I find it difficult to let go of any issues I’m worried about. Thus when this happens, I’ve learned to consider the use of professional guidance and even medication.

    I’d recommend anyone who feels that they have difficulty with thier state of mind also consider seeking such help. The fact that you seek it out doesn’t mean you’re crazy or even that you desperately need help. It could simply be that dealing with it on your own is not worth the difficulty.


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    Chuck Says:

    It makes perfect sense to me. Just think how much more smoothly the government would run without all those pesky citizens getting in the way by running businesses, paying taxes, engaging in commerce, etc.


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    Anonymous Says:

            drbuzz0 said:

    I’m not a doctor but I believe Xanax is the kind of medication that is taken occasionally or when symptoms happen and you need to calm down – as opposed to something like Paxil, Zoloft etc which are taken generally on a daily basis for continuous symptom management.

    (Again, I’m not a doctor, that’s just my understanding.)

    This is something I generally avoid ever talking about, but I have had some issues in the past that I’ve taken medication for. It wasn’t a huge deal and I didn’t need a high dose, but I’m glad I did. It wasn’t absolutely necessary – I could have bit the bullet and bared it but anti-anxiety medication helped.

    For me, I found that there were some things I got stressed out about (which is not in and of itself unusual for any healthy individual), however I found that some issues were almost impossible to get off my mind. I’d be stressed over something and I couldn’t stop thinking about it, even when I was trying to do something else I’d continue to feel anxiety over an issue. Certain things would stick in the back of my mind longer than they should. It made sleep difficult and that made things worse.

    One issue is I got a lot of completely wrong diagnoses from untrained friends who thought they were doing the right thing by being an amateur doctor and telling me I either had OCD or something.

    A bunch of people told me I had OCD.

    When I finally did see a doctor about it, he told me it was not OCD because I didn’t manifest symptoms of compulsions or have multiple obsessive worries.

    He said that it was just general anxiety with some aspects of repetitive thought anxiety.

    In any case, the use of some anti-anxiety medication combined with cognitive behavior therapy made it a lot easier to stop focusing on worrisome issues and get things back in perspective.

    I was reluctant to go to any kind of professional, I think in part becasue I am normally very good at dealing with pressure and stress.

    In general, I take anxiety relatively well on my own up to a point of what you might call “critical mass” after this tipping point I find it difficult to let go of any issues I’m worried about.

    Thus when this happens, I’ve learned to consider the use of professional guidance and even medication.

    I’d recommend anyone who feels that they have difficulty with thier state of mind also consider seeking such help.

    The fact that you seek it out doesn’t mean you’re crazy or even that you desperately need help. It could simply be that dealing with it on your own is not worth the difficulty.

    Well thanks to your posts my anxiety attacks have subsided, though there is still a bit of unsureness in the back of my mind about the whole thing that I can’t seem to get rid of.


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    Engineering Edgar Says:

            Anonymous said:

    Well thanks to your posts my anxiety attacks have subsided, though there is still a bit of unsureness in the back of my mind about the whole thing that I can’t seem to get rid of.

    Seriously, see someone and they can recommend medication and cognitive therapy. I take meds for anxiety. When I was in college I used to get really stressed when work piled up to the point where I couldn’t function and I almost failed out because of it my freshman year. I had anxiety attacks that basically burned me out. It would go away over the summer and I’d think I was okay but then once I got going again, it came back and it was very hard to deal with.

    If your attacks are subsiding it could be that they’ll come back. Something is bothering you or otherwise you’re just not totally comfortable. Medication doesn’t really change who you are or how you think but it can help how you deal with thoughts. Being unable to get a persistent feeling or thought out of your mind is not normal. Don’t sweat it though, it’s something that happens to the best of us and it’s something that can be managed.

    The human brain is pretty crappy in some ways. It needs some adjustment sometimes. Chemicals and neurons are sub-optimal. We just notice it more these days because in the past we were all panicking anyway over the famine that was always a single locust swarm away.


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    Q Says:

            Anonymous said:

    Most of the things Alex Jones, his followers and other conspiracy theorists alike say I call bull****, but as I said on another post my rational train of thought often goes off track when the issue of personal safety is involved. I guess I’m a very weak minded individual, I’ve been having awful panic attacks over this lately and I can’t get over it, I need to seek help but I don’t want to seem crazy…. Too late, I guess.

    What are your thoughts on NLE09?

    http://www.fema.gov/media/fact_sheets/nle09.shtm

    That looks like a plan by FEMA for a basic preparedness exercise. These don’t do much and really if you’re not in the loop, you don’t even know it’s happening, but it is a bunch of agencies running some drills. It was done a real lot during the cold war. The main purpose is to make people feel confident that something is being done.

    For what it’s worth, I don’t think the government could possibly do something like have a nationwide plan to round people up and execute them. At least not in seceret. There have been hidden programs and scandals in the government but they’re always compartmentalized. Getting the military, FEMA, the transportation systems, the local and state police agencies and everyone in between would be required for that kind of thing and you can’t really do that without people finding out or something going wrong.

    Just look at something like Huricane Katrina: Fema did things like order millions of dollars in food and then have it all go bad because they forgot to order refrigeration trucks. They paid money to cruise lines to rent cruise ships for housing but then they never sent people to live in them and they sat there empty. These things happen and anything with a lot of longistics is going to be very difficult.

    That’s why this is bull. The nazis and every other regime that singled out a group for rounding up did so with the approval or at least cooperation of the citizenship. Right now there is so much distrust of the government I don’t see how that could happen any time soon.


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    Liberty And Justice For None Says:

    You can ignore the facts and conveniently try to come up with an explanation for the huge numbers of coffins which are seen, but that’s not going to help anyone in the end except the Illuminati when the time comes. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY PLACE THEY HAVE BEEN SEEN. THere are other storage yards some of which are very close to known or suspected concentration/death camps and it has been confirmed that the government has purchased coffins and has spent money on the companies that sell them.

    There is information that a big coffin company in Arizona has sold a million dollars worth of plastic coffins every year to the DOD Veterans Admin which is a lot if you think about the current death toll in the wars then what could they want so many for? They anticipate many soldiers dying in the second civil war. Yes, CIVIL WAR, as in HERE. That is the only explanation why so many deaths would be expected when some fight back against the military as they turn the guns against the people of this country (welcome to nazi germany, time to go to the concentration camps!)

    Look up some time and maybe you’ll notice the sky looks different. What the hell is haarp for? You can’t explain those two. Chemicals being sprayed, people getting sick, coffins being stockpiled. The signs are there plain as day


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    DV82XL Says:

    Did you know that popular talk show host Alex Jones is is actually an undercover Catholic Jesuit operative as well as a CIA plant and that he is also a Vatican stooge? Well did you?


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    Anonymous Says:

            DV82XL said:

    Did you know that popular talk show host Alex Jones is is actually an undercover Catholic Jesuit operative as well as a CIA plant and that he is also a Vatican stooge? Well did you?

    I often hear “conspiracy sites are government owned and ran!”, how true is this statement?


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    apotheosis Says:

    I often hear “conspiracy sites are government owned and ran!”, how true is this statement?

    It’s not true at all. In fact, that’s a conspiracy theory being pushed by an international cabal of unionized web developers, who suspect the government is pushing them out of the increasingly popular and lucrative paranoid schizophrenic market.


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    Jason Ribeiro Says:

    How do you find this insanity Dr. Buzz? It’s so off the charts, it must be a joke.


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    Chem Geek Gregor Says:

            Jason Ribeiro said:

    How do you find this insanity Dr. Buzz? It’s so off the charts, it must be a joke.

    I hate to tell you this, Jason, but this is not an obscure and extreme belief. Well, maybe it’s extreme but it is not obscure. There are a whole lot of videos on this if you just search “FEMA” on google or youtube or something, there is a very large movement on the internet over this. It’s not hiding in the corner. This is like chemtrails – despite being idiotic a surprisingly large number of people buy into this.

    It’s been all over the various Alex-Jones fanboy pages and working it’s way into the 9/11 troof stuff. Really, this along with the whole idea of concentration camps at certain sites and the belief that HAARP (an ionosphere scatter study center in Alsaka) is really for controlling minds and making weather disasters.


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    John S Says:

    What an odd conspiracy theory!
    Manufacturers will have thousands on hand as these are cast items and you always make cast items in large quantities.
    Distributors with have piles of them but never more than a few hundred.
    Dealers will have as many as they can store as they are cheaper to transport in quantity. The local one has about 50 as I recall when I drive by there every day and they always have some on a truck coming in or going out.

    Fact: People die. Live with it.


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    Anonymous Says:

            apotheosis said:

    I often hear “conspiracy sites are government owned and ran!”, how true is this statement?

    It’s not true at all. In fact, that’s a conspiracy theory being pushed by an international cabal of unionized web developers, who suspect the government is pushing them out of the increasingly popular and lucrative paranoid schizophrenic market.

    Unfortunately, the only “proof” I can find that people like Alex Jones are CIA operatives, are from other conspiracies theorists who say he’s in the conspiracy business to discredit the theorists, to make them look like fools.

    I just don’t know what to believe anymore…. / :


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    Summer Says:

            Chuck said:

    It makes perfect sense to me. Just think how much more smoothly the government would run without all those pesky citizens getting in the way by running businesses, paying taxes, engaging in commerce, etc.

    LOL!!!!!! :)


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    nancilee Says:

    You guys are killing me. I don’t trust the Gov. as it is. Now, I have to think about ending up in a big black plastic box? So, What do you do from here? One day at a time? Max out all credit cards? Yes, I look at the sky and I see it, I see and hear about people out west of me, in Palm beach county, getting Brain tumers, Hum.. what is this all about? Who really runs this country? What big secret are we being kept from?


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    DV82XL Says:

    Don’t wanna be an American idiot.
    One nation controlled by the media.
    Information nation of hysteria.
    It’s going out to idiot America.

    -Green Day


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    drbuzz0 Says:

            nancilee said:

    Who really runs this country?

    Nobody. That’s the secret. Sure the government has a head of state (the president) and highest court (the supreme court) and legislators and department heads, but the secret is this: It is so compartmentalized and has so many different individuals and groups with different agendas running different parts that there is never a single unified plan or strategy.

    If there were any one given entity running things they wouldn’t constantly be in conflict with eachother and things would probably actually get done occasionally. Whether or not those things getting done would be positive is another issue entirely.


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