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		<title>By: NA</title>
		<link>http://depletedcranium.com/flight-1549-was-no-miracle/comment-page-1/#comment-31136</link>
		<dc:creator>NA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 20:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate this article, even one year after the accident. This accident became renown as the &quot;miracle on Hudson River&quot; yet like you I believe that credit goes to the crew of the plane, the passengers, and the rescuers. Of coarse, Nully and his crew did receive plenty of recognition for their actions and Nully constantly states that he was not a hero but was simply doing his job. As he was the captain of the plane, I agree with him and believe he did his job remarkably well. He did not lose his cool and did everything required of him as a pilot in an emergency of the kind. The collaboration and cooperation of the people collectively is absolutely inspiring and cannot be accredited to just one man. He did not learn how to perform an emergency procedure on his own. It was a necessary part of becoming a pilot. And it is not something every man or woman can handle.

Also appreciate your meatball-spaghetti recreation of &#039;god&#039;. Kuddos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate this article, even one year after the accident. This accident became renown as the &#8220;miracle on Hudson River&#8221; yet like you I believe that credit goes to the crew of the plane, the passengers, and the rescuers. Of coarse, Nully and his crew did receive plenty of recognition for their actions and Nully constantly states that he was not a hero but was simply doing his job. As he was the captain of the plane, I agree with him and believe he did his job remarkably well. He did not lose his cool and did everything required of him as a pilot in an emergency of the kind. The collaboration and cooperation of the people collectively is absolutely inspiring and cannot be accredited to just one man. He did not learn how to perform an emergency procedure on his own. It was a necessary part of becoming a pilot. And it is not something every man or woman can handle.</p>
<p>Also appreciate your meatball-spaghetti recreation of &#8216;god&#8217;. Kuddos!</p>
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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbuzz0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 21:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;23654&quot;]exept of course the awesome sensation that one feels when submerced in prayer and fasting.l[/quote]

That sensation you&#039;re talking about - you mean malnutrition-induced delirium?</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/flight-1549-was-no-miracle/#comment-23654"><b>dboy said:</b></a></p>
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exept of course the awesome sensation that one feels when submerced in prayer and fasting.l</p>
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<p>That sensation you&#8217;re talking about &#8211; you mean malnutrition-induced delirium?</p>
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		<title>By: DV82XL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DV82XL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;23659&quot;]You can add some flagellation too. In this way, perhaps God will eventually forgive you and readmitt you to His grace.[/quote]

I strongly concur with you Finrod, mortification of the flesh is definitely warranted here, it is the only prescription that will do in a case like this.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/flight-1549-was-no-miracle/#comment-23659"><b>Finrod said:</b></a></p>
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You can add some flagellation too. In this way, perhaps God will eventually forgive you and readmitt you to His grace.</p>
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<p>I strongly concur with you Finrod, mortification of the flesh is definitely warranted here, it is the only prescription that will do in a case like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Finrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dboy:


God has cursed your effort  to evangelise Chem Geek Gregor by confusing your understanding of the quote function to make you look like a twerp. You are clearly not favoured of Him. Best you increase your efforts at fasting and prayer. Especially fasting. You can add some flaggellation too. In this way, perhaps God will eventually forgive you and readmitt you to His grace.</description>
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<p>God has cursed your effort  to evangelise Chem Geek Gregor by confusing your understanding of the quote function to make you look like a twerp. You are clearly not favoured of Him. Best you increase your efforts at fasting and prayer. Especially fasting. You can add some flaggellation too. In this way, perhaps God will eventually forgive you and readmitt you to His grace.</p>
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		<title>By: dboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>dboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;14006&quot;]So what else is new?

People always credit god for good things but don&#039;t blame him for the bad.

&quot;Yeah, I&#039;d thank god for letting me live, except I&#039;d really have preferred if he hadn&#039;t sent my plane into the river to begin with.&quot; Sometimes when someone dies they even spin it to god&#039;s credit.  &quot;He wanted her back sooner because she&#039;s an angel&quot; or something.

Bullshit![/quote]
It&#039;s amazing to me how negative you are.You clearly aren&#039;t seeing that you&#039;re unbelief has caused you to grow into a bitter human being.From the moment we breath our first breath,our bodies our doomed to die.As a matter of fact,that is the only thing that is gauranteed in life,to die,exept of course the awesome sensation that one feels when submerced in prayer and fasting.Their are many scientific facts out there that support the bible.You should do you&#039;re research.I will pray that you find wisdom.Here is a tip, The fear of God is the begining of wisdom.God bless you pal,be cool

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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/flight-1549-was-no-miracle/#comment-14006"><b>Chem Geek Gregor said:</b></a></p>
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So what else is new?</p>
<p>People always credit god for good things but don&#8217;t blame him for the bad.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yeah, I&#8217;d thank god for letting me live, except I&#8217;d really have preferred if he hadn&#8217;t sent my plane into the river to begin with.&#8221; Sometimes when someone dies they even spin it to god&#8217;s credit.  &#8220;He wanted her back sooner because she&#8217;s an angel&#8221; or something.</p>
<p>Bull****!</p>
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<p>It&#8217;s amazing to me how negative you are.You clearly aren&#8217;t seeing that you&#8217;re unbelief has caused you to grow into a bitter human being.From the moment we breath our first breath,our bodies our doomed to die.As a matter of fact,that is the only thing that is gauranteed in life,to die,exept of course the awesome sensation that one feels when submerced in prayer and fasting.Their are many scientific facts out there that support the bible.You should do you&#8217;re research.I will pray that you find wisdom.Here is a tip, The fear of God is the begining of wisdom.God bless you pal,be cool</p>
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		<title>By: NYPESTPRO</title>
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		<dc:creator>NYPESTPRO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that while it wasn&#039;t a miracle the guy really did a great job of handling the situation. I dont know how i would handle it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that while it wasn&#8217;t a miracle the guy really did a great job of handling the situation. I dont know how i would handle it.</p>
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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbuzz0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;14526&quot;]Might try a spell check and grammar check next time. Lots of errors.

&quot;testiment&quot;
&quot;would haven’t have had to go down at all.&quot;
&quot;manuver&quot;
&quot;panicing&quot;
etc.[/quote]


Yeah I&#039;m a horrible speller.  I always run a spell check when writing posts but somehow it must not have been turned on in this one.   For some strange reason the spell check occasionally does not flag words in the post like it&#039;s supposed to automatically do.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/flight-1549-was-no-miracle/#comment-14526"><b>Tannera said:</b></a></p>
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Might try a spell check and grammar check next time. Lots of errors.</p>
<p>&#8220;testiment&#8221;<br />
&#8220;would haven’t have had to go down at all.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;manuver&#8221;<br />
&#8220;panicing&#8221;<br />
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<p>Yeah I&#8217;m a horrible speller.  I always run a spell check when writing posts but somehow it must not have been turned on in this one.   For some strange reason the spell check occasionally does not flag words in the post like it&#8217;s supposed to automatically do.</p>
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		<title>By: Tannera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tannera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 02:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might try a spell check and grammar check next time. Lots of errors.

&quot;testiment&quot;
&quot;would haven’t have had to go down at all.&quot;
&quot;manuver&quot;
&quot;panicing&quot;
etc.</description>
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<p>&#8220;testiment&#8221;<br />
&#8220;would haven’t have had to go down at all.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;manuver&#8221;<br />
&#8220;panicing&#8221;<br />
etc.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve said my bit in many words about this elsewhere, but I can sum up simply (and I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll all thank me for being brief).

If you want me to believe in miracles, show me a submarine soft-landed on a cloud.  Until then, stop trying to make out than humans can&#039;t be competent, and that all good things come from your Invisible Friend.  Thank you.</description>
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<p>If you want me to believe in miracles, show me a submarine soft-landed on a cloud.  Until then, stop trying to make out than humans can&#8217;t be competent, and that all good things come from your Invisible Friend.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbuzz0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;14031&quot;]
3.  I hear this &quot;women and children first&quot; stuff. A bit antiquated if you ask me.  I am a forty something female and would much prefer they concentrate on the sick, disabled, elderly and children.  Since my job loss in May I have gained 50 lbs and don&#039;t get as cold as I used to.  I wonder if the very skinny should have gone first?[/quote]

I believe in these situations old chivalry is less important than the practical matters.   Usually those nearest the exits get out of the plane first because they&#039;d be blocking others if they didn&#039;t leave.  The ones nearest the exit doors may be required to open them and then to assist people, but you&#039;d still want to go from the closest to the furthers from the exits so you didn&#039;t have people climbing over eachother.  In this situation the plane wouldn&#039;t really be in imediate danger becasue it kept floating for a while and so maintaining order and getting the people out in an organized manner seems like the most important.   Someone who is injured, I guess you&#039;d want to clear out the people around them first so you&#039;d have room to carry them out.


As for who gets picked up the first by the boats, I&#039;d imagine the highest priority would be anyone in the water and then anyone who was soaking wet or very cold.   The passengers who were on the wing or a raft and were basically dry wouldn&#039;t be as high a priority because they&#039;d be able to wait a bit without being in severe danger of any kind.

I&#039;m not entirely sure about what the best thing to do with someone who is injured would be.   If they were dry and on a high part of the plane and were not in immediate danger, and if the crew or others were keeping them calm and everything, then if I were on a ferry I&#039;d be inclined to leave them for the fire department or police boats to pick up.    I&#039;m assuming they&#039;d be there within minutes and they&#039;d be better equipped to pick up someone like that without causing injury.   I wouldn&#039;t want someone with fractured bones being manhandled onto the deck of a ferry by untrained passengers if it was not completely necessary because that could make matters worse.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/flight-1549-was-no-miracle/#comment-14031"><b>curious said:</b></a></p>
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<p>3.  I hear this &#8220;women and children first&#8221; stuff. A bit antiquated if you ask me.  I am a forty something female and would much prefer they concentrate on the sick, disabled, elderly and children.  Since my job loss in May I have gained 50 lbs and don&#8217;t get as cold as I used to.  I wonder if the very skinny should have gone first?</p>
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<p>I believe in these situations old chivalry is less important than the practical matters.   Usually those nearest the exits get out of the plane first because they&#8217;d be blocking others if they didn&#8217;t leave.  The ones nearest the exit doors may be required to open them and then to assist people, but you&#8217;d still want to go from the closest to the furthers from the exits so you didn&#8217;t have people climbing over eachother.  In this situation the plane wouldn&#8217;t really be in imediate danger becasue it kept floating for a while and so maintaining order and getting the people out in an organized manner seems like the most important.   Someone who is injured, I guess you&#8217;d want to clear out the people around them first so you&#8217;d have room to carry them out.</p>
<p>As for who gets picked up the first by the boats, I&#8217;d imagine the highest priority would be anyone in the water and then anyone who was soaking wet or very cold.   The passengers who were on the wing or a raft and were basically dry wouldn&#8217;t be as high a priority because they&#8217;d be able to wait a bit without being in severe danger of any kind.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not entirely sure about what the best thing to do with someone who is injured would be.   If they were dry and on a high part of the plane and were not in immediate danger, and if the crew or others were keeping them calm and everything, then if I were on a ferry I&#8217;d be inclined to leave them for the fire department or police boats to pick up.    I&#8217;m assuming they&#8217;d be there within minutes and they&#8217;d be better equipped to pick up someone like that without causing injury.   I wouldn&#8217;t want someone with fractured bones being manhandled onto the deck of a ferry by untrained passengers if it was not completely necessary because that could make matters worse.</p>
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