“Miracle Mineral Supplement”- Three Months Later

October 28th, 2010
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It has been almost three months since the news first broke about the substance being sold as “Miracle Mineral Supplement.” In fact, the substance being sold as a cure-all is a solution of sodium chlorite, a chemical which, when mixed with critic acid undergoes a chemical reaction that produces chlorine dioxide, a powerful oxidizing agent which is used in paper production and disinfection applications.

In the US, the FDA issued a warning against the product. Its sale was also banned by Health Canada. The dangerous health reactions have not been confined to North America. Reports of use in the UK and as far away as Kenya have also come to light, resulting in the British Government issuing a warning against using the product.

It has widely been reported that the product is “Clorox Bleach.” Strictly speaking, this isn’t really true. Clorox bleach and others household and laundry bleach products are sodium hypochlorite. Though chemically similar, it’s not quite the same thing. Sodium chlorite is more reactive and the concentrations in MMS are higher than what is normally found outside of industrial settings. Chlorine dioxide is a yellow-green gas which is unstable and a powerful oxidizer. In some environments, it may break down to raw chlorine gas.

These substances are available from most industrial chemical suppliers. Sodium chlorite ca also be found in water purification tablets, which are available to consumers. It’s safe when used according to directions at low concentrations, which is usually one small tablet per canteen of water.

You might think that after all this information coming to light that people would be less prone to use the stuff, but if you did, you’d be wrong.

A quick read of forms and health blogs will find that a number of individuals are now trying to make the stuff themselves. One idiot in Canada stated it “makes me happy” to find that the ingredients could still be purchased in the form of water purification tablets.

Indeed it seems a whole community has grown of people who are utterly convinced that this stuff will cure any and every disease and that the only reason they can’t get the original formula is because of the conspiracy of government agencies and the pharmaceutical companies.

Then we have videos like this one (which came out just this month) instructing people on how to make it themselves using the supplies they can acquire from any industrial chemical supply house:



And this guy who still uses the stuff and claims that it burns because it “peals off the bad layers on your face”




Finally, this guy seems to think that the potent chlorine smell proves that it’s working…

If you have any doubt of just how powerful and reactive this stuff is, check out these videos of its legitimate usage:




Yes, it is so powerful that it will bleach the mold right out of a building and kill bacteria and fungus on contact. And no, it does not know how to distinguish between “good” and “bad” organisms.

It is absolutely astounding that there have not been more deaths and serious injuries from this product. As to those who still do use it (even going to great lengths to get it), good luck with your Darwin Award application!


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25 Responses to ““Miracle Mineral Supplement”- Three Months Later”

  1. 1
    DV82XL Says:

    I wish that the perpetrators of this farce take a dose of their own poison by mistake, and enter swiftly into the damnation which they and all other patent medicine assassins have so remorselessly earned and so richly deserve.


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    Stewart Peterson Says:

    Anyone want to take bets on when some clown will sue an industrial manufacturer of this chemical for injuring them?


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    Russ Says:

    Chlorine dioxide is used in industries like paper making, chemical production, water purification and the food industry. In the food industry it is used to steralize equipment or things like freezers and storage tanks for foodstuffs.

    See here: www2.dupont.com/Chlorine_Dioxide/…/Food_Process_Santitation_K06292.pdf

    Has advantages over chlorine of being more water soluble and less corrosive to metals. It is very potent stuff. It has to be. Anything that has that broad a spectrum of effect against biological material will kill a human just as easily.

    The safety standard for left over chlorine dioxide is something like 3-12 ppm depending on the circumstances.

    It’s safe at low enough levels (the dose makes the poison. It might be found in some kinds of water purifying tablets, but it’s going to be low levels. It might make the water taste like it came from a YMCA pool, but it won’t kill you. However, if you got enough then it sure could kill you or at least burn your throat and lungs very badly.

    The guy in the second video scares me. If you can feel it burning then that is WAY TOO MUCH! He mentions it whitens teeth and cured a toothache. I bet it does. It’s so harsh it probably killed the nerve ending in his tooth and I’m sure it does whiten teeth, because it’s a very strong bleach. Some early types of tooth bleaching did whiten teeth very well but also damaged the enamel so much that a few years later the teeth would start to rot and have to be all pulled out.


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    L.Long Says:

    Another brilliant intelligence test.
    If you know someone who is drinking this schite then you know an idiot.
    Ya some will say but these people are desperate for something to help. Tough!
    Show me something with the word ‘chlorine’ in it that is good for you?
    Ya I know salt…but it aint all that good for you either.


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    drbuzz0 Says:

            L.Long said:

    Show me something with the word ‘chlorine’ in it that is good for you?

    Well, I wouldn’t go that far. Chlorine is a common element found in many vital biological compounds and also in pharmaceuticals and such. Hydrochloric acid is critical for digestion, for example.

    But that’s different, of course.

    I think you’re right in this circumstance. This is not just being “desperate” this is also being very very stupid.

    It still can cause the rest of us problems. This crap will inevitably end up with people being sent to the hospital to take up a needed hospital bed and have their treatment paid for by either tax payers or insurance premiums or both. Also, there’s the possibility that it would be given to children who have no say in its use.

    I guess I can’t stop people from killing themselves with their idiocy. It’s more of a bother when they don’t *quite* kill themselves and the rest of the world foots the bill for the Lifestar helicopter that has to come take them to a hospital and for the oxygen they’ll need to be on while their lungs heal.


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    MrNiceguy Says:

    Frankly, if idiots want to drink bleach, I don’t care one way or the other. If you want to believe that the *big bad pharma* is covering up the healing powers of drinking bleach, go right ahead. I just hope nobody is forcing this stuff on their kids. And I hope people using this have their own health insurance, and it’s not from the same company I use.


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    Liz Ditz Says:

    Rhys Morgan, a teenager from Wales, took on the MMS faithful

    http://richarddawkins.net/articles/534614-praise-for-rhys-morgan-15-over-miracle-cure-alert

    Moderator’s note: The BBC story doesn’t do full justice to the extent of Rhys Morgan’s activism on this issue. He didn’t only bring the matter to the attention of the FSA, but also did his best to alert other people on the Crohn’s Disease Support Forum of the dangers of the product, and ended up suffering a staggering amount of personal abuse from supporters of ‘alternative therapies’ for his pains. Rhys Morgan’s activism on this issue won him the James Randi Award for Grassroots Activism at TAM London this weekend – and a well-earned standing ovation from attendees too.

    The food safety watchdog has praised a teenager who alerted it to a “miracle” cure sold over the internet which has been compared to bleach.

    Rhys Morgan, 15, from Cardiff, who has Crohn’s disease, found the US-based product on an online forum about the intestinal disorder.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/sep/15/miracle-mineral-solutions-mms-bleach
    When 15-year-old Rhys Morgan was diagnosed with Crohn’s disease a few months ago he turned to the internet for help, and came across the Crohn’s Disease Forum, a website offering support to patients. “I was looking for a support forum, a community of people with same illness as me and some on the same meds as me.”

    He followed the site for a while and noticed a disturbing undercurrent of people trying to push alternative medicines to members. One product in particular was called Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS), and its website claimed it cured cancer, Aids, malaria, and basically most things short of actual death.

    The whole story, at Rhys’s site

    http://thewelshboyo.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/bleachgate/


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    Smilodon Says:

    I would say this is natural selection in action. The non-survival of the stupidest. It does not take hell of a lot of brains to avoid drinking bleach, but these guys don’t seem to have any.


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    drbuzz0 Says:

            Liz Ditz said:

    Rhys Morgan, a teenager from Wales, took on the MMS faithful

    http://richarddawkins.net/articles/534614-praise-for-rhys-morgan-15-over-miracle-cure-alert

    Moderator’s note: The BBC story doesn’t do full justice to the extent of Rhys Morgan’s activism on this issue. He didn’t only bring the matter to the attention of the FSA, but also did his best to alert other people on the Crohn’s Disease Support Forum of the dangers of the product, and ended up suffering a staggering amount of personal abuse from supporters of ‘alternative therapies’ for his pains. Rhys Morgan’s activism on this issue won him the James Randi Award for Grassroots Activism at TAM London this weekend – and a well-earned standing ovation from attendees too.

    Were you there? I had really hoped to attend TAM London but I had work obligations that I couldn’t really get out of. I heard it went very well.


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    Anon Says:

    That assumes you know it’s bleach, a lot of the people who take it probably are completely ignorant as to what it really is.

    Doesn’t excuse those who’ve been told what it is and still take it (or even abuse those who warn people of the dangers) though.


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    Chuck P. Says:

            Anon said:

    That assumes you know it’s bleach, a lot of the people who take it probably are completely ignorant as to what it really is…

    Which is why we should take those who sell this, lock them up, and throw away the key.


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    Matthew Says:

            Anon said:

    That assumes you know it’s bleach, a lot of the people who take it probably are completely ignorant as to what it really is.

    Doesn’t excuse those who’ve been told what it is and still take it (or even abuse those who warn people of the dangers) though.

    btw, Anon – it’s fairly easy to tell who you’re relying to here, given the short thread and your post’s proximity to Smilodon’t, but could you use the quote function? It just makes it easier all around.


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    ebohlman Says:

    In the Guardian article that Liz Cited, “Jim Humble”, the promoter of MMS, talks about possibly setting up a church to avoid prosecution for distributing the stuff. Why? Well, he says, the Catholic Church was able to evade the authorities for centuries when it came to, you guessed it, child sexual abuse.


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    Calli Arcale Says:

            Anon said:

    That assumes you know it’s bleach, a lot of the people who take it probably are completely ignorant as to what it really is.

    Doesn’t excuse those who’ve been told what it is and still take it (or even abuse those who warn people of the dangers) though.


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    Calli Arcale Says:

            Anon said:

    That assumes you know it’s bleach, a lot of the people who take it probably are completely ignorant as to what it really is.

    Therein lies the problem, indeed. I don’t know how much is a failure of our schools and how much is a failure of our society to really cherish curiosity, but people don’t understand basic stuff like this. It’s honestly the same problem as illustrated by the dihydrogen monoxide thing — people don’t know what these chemicals are. There are people horrified to learn that ascorbic acid has been added to their food, but are perfectly fine with Vitamin C, which is of course exactly the same thing.

    There are people out there who think it’s a good idea to inject hydrogen peroxide intravenously. If you can actually get buyers trying to sell that as therapy, then there are people who will fall for *ANYTHING*.


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    drbuzz0 Says:

            Anon said:

    That assumes you know it’s bleach, a lot of the people who take it probably are completely ignorant as to what it really is.

    Doesn’t excuse those who’ve been told what it is and still take it (or even abuse those who warn people of the dangers) though.

    Good point. I can think of times when a person, through no fault of their own, would not know. We take for granted the fact that we can hit up Google with this stuff and find out some basic information on the topic. This does not apply to everyone.

    For example, my grandmother is well into her 80′s and like most in her generation, never uses the internet and wouldn’t really know how. Hell, she doesn’t even drive anymore, so what could she do to research this? Ask someone to drive her to the library so she could look through chemistry books to find the properties of chlorine dioxide? Unlikely. If an honest-seeming person who appeared to be a medical authority with the credibility of any doctor told someone who was not internet savy and didn’t have much external support, could you blame them for trying it out?

    That bothers me more than the fanatics who insist on injuring themselves with this crap. (although I object to paying for them to do so when they are admitted to the emergency room because of their own stupidity)


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    Anon Says:

            Calli Arcale said:

    There are people out there who think it’s a good idea to inject hydrogen peroxide intravenously. If you can actually get buyers trying to sell that as therapy, then there are people who will fall for *ANYTHING*.

    Compared to chemotherapy and radiation therapy it’s not all that far fetched (aside from H2O2 not actually helping with anything).


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    Patrick Says:

            Patrick said:

    There have been no reported deaths from use of MMS; however the FDA has received numerous reports of nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration. [22] The makers of MMS do state that nausea and vomiting is a sign that it is working.Licensed medical professionals and toxicologists would not agree with this statement.

    You have to be kidding me. Nausea and Vomiting means it is working?


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    Anon Says:

            Patrick said:

    You have to be kidding me. Nausea and Vomiting means it is working?

    Chemotherapy and radiation therapy have vomiting as side effects.

    Not that it means this quackery is working but it isn’t all that far-fetched how a person could think it works given that there are things done in real medicine with such side effects.


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    metalclosure Says:

    I feel good to read your blog on the industrial suppliments
    The METAL CLOSURES PVT LTD is one of the huge suppliers of metal cap,metal closures


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    steve Says:

    It’s not bleach, smart dummies. lol


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    Coin Gracie Says:

    It’s really a pretty crappy bleach. The reason it’s used in paper mills, is that the Chlorine Dioxide gas controls bioslime in the cooling towers.

    Taken properly, it is not toxic to humans, and as to date NO DEATHS, since 2007. One misreport that was verified by autopsy that it wasn’t in fact MMS.

    Sodium Chloride is a salt, like table salt is Sodium Chloride. Chlorine Dioxide is a far cry from Sodium Hypochlorite (bleach).

    The only difference between table salt and Clorox is the number of oxygen atoms attached to the chlorine atom. Yep, even table salt has chlorine in it. It’s also one of the most abundant chemicals in the body.

    It matters little to me whether you believe it has any benefit, but misinformation from any source is never a good thing. Please try to at least understand the chlorine/oxygen relationship, and the vast difference an atom can make in the effects of a molecule.


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    Anon Says:

    So one of the spammers selling that crap is trying to defend the useless and dangerous quack remedy.


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    Rick Says:

    With all due respect… I have a friend with pancreatic cancer. He was sent home, with no treatment available, to die almost two years ago with a 3 to 6 months life expectancy. He has been using this Miracle Mineral Supplement. Nowadays, he isn’t cancer free but he is alive and kicking with a normal quality of life…


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    Depleted Cranium » Blog Archive » Chlorine Dioxide: A Horrific Treatment for Autism Says:

    […] I have written before about a product being sold as¬†Miracle Mineral Supplement.¬† It claims to cure everything from cancer to malaria, but is actually one of the most dangerous quack products out there. […]


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