Does this look like a “FEMA Camp” to you?
January 15th, 2009
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This is a video supposedly taken in Chicago which reveals “proof” of the plans by the US government to imprison citizens and begin exterminating the undesirables. Yes, I’m serious, somebody posted it under that pretense. It looks like a warehouse to me, not especially sinister. It does have a chain link fence area. Perhaps they were planning on keeping something in there, like maybe tools or boxes?
His videography seems to be about as good as his logic. Here’s a copy of the same video that I scaled a bit and used a de-shaking filter on to make it a bit easier to see. Also, I flipped it so its now right side up. Look scary to you? Is that fenced in area even connected to the floor? it looks like it’s just sitting there to me.
To be fair it’s not entirely bogus to say that the government did have some internment plans for Chicago. When the Democratic Convention was held there, there was a good deal of fear that protests might develop into riots or a crowd control disiaster. It’s not that authorities necessarily wanted to imprison people for peacefully expressing their opinion, but when a large crowd’s political passions go past the point of speech and start to involve things like shoving police officers and throwing stones, it can become a nightmare for law enforcement. The sheer logistics of arresting hundreds of trouble makers can be daunting.
However, with a few isolated exceptions, the protests remained generally peaceful and confrontations were minimal and not usually violent. It’s been at least several years since the accusiations of extermination programs have become populat. Still nothing..
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January 16th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Can you imagine just how poor a self image these idiots have to think that their own government wants to inter them in death camps? I mean they must see themselves as totally worthless, and somehow believe that the country would be seen as a better place if they were liquidated.
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January 16th, 2009 at 12:33 am
DV82XL said:
Maybe, but I think you could also cast it as a desperate need to feel important or part of something bigger. He said that the little portable fence thing was for ‘detaining people who are against the current administration.’ He might feel like he’s a crusader and that he’s part of the big effort to oppose the government. George W. Bush lies awake in bed in terror of him and others who oppose him and is thinking ‘we have to get those people contained or I’ll be ruined!’
On top of being one of the ones who the powers want in that cage, he’s the spy who is reporting it to the resistors!
To make it short: This guy wants to think he’s Luke Skywalker.
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January 16th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
I have no idea what it is because it’s so badly videod. Your video is better than the unedited one by far, but it still only looks like a chain link fence and maybe a warehouse or a garage or something. What the hell evidence is there of anything? If this idiot really did have access to such a place, which I’m sure he didn’t, then he should have taken some care to document it better.
It’s so stupid. What the hell evidence is this? There isn’t any. It doesn’t even look secure.
This is as stupid as people who show a picture of a tiny blured light in the sky and demand that if you can’t prove what it is then it must be an alien space ship. Jesus Christ, it could be anything. It’s a ****in little blury dot of light. Maybe if you knew how to operate a camera you’d have a good enough image that it could distinguish an airplane from a star.
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January 18th, 2009 at 11:06 am
This cage looks much like a portable tool cage. Some work sites keep Job boxes and tools locked up and 1 person is responsible for making sure they are checked out and back in properly. Usualy on temporary construction sites these just sit loosley on the floor just like this one apears to be set up. Is this possibly a spoof? it might explain the horrible video quality… pretending to be in a frenzy?
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January 18th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
It’s hard to tell jokes like this sometimes, but many people who commented on the original video clearly showed that some people took it seriously. It’s the only video on the guy’s account. I’d put my money on it being real, but I’ve been wrong before.
I assume the idea with a “Job box: is not really that the thing is so hard to get into that it would be really secure but rather that it would be hard for someone to lift up the entire cage thing without being noticed thus making it difficult to pocket something or whatever. I doubt it’d be that secure if full of people.
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January 19th, 2009 at 8:30 am
drbuzz0 said:
No not at all if you had over 200 people they could simply lift and cary it around… Ever hear the saying locks keep honest people honest… That is the idea behind the tool cage. Generaly they are not anchored to the ground unless it’s going to be there for an extended period of time…..
Think extra tall dog kennel. It can easily be taken down or moved out of the way.
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February 10th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
I know it’s easy to write people off as paranoid, but Japanese internment was of real, live, US citizens and the German concentration camps started out rather small, too. We all agree now that that was not ok, but it’s so recent that living people remember it. Why do we think it won’t happen again? History says we’re totally capable of doing dumb things over and over again. When people get scared and stop thinking, it really can happen again. I have no problem imagining this, and I’m also not blaming either party or administration, since supposedly funding for these upgrades started two years ago. Keep your mind open, don’t let others shut it for you.
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February 10th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Annaberri said:
For pity sake, You can build internment camps in a matter of months if you need to, because that’s what they did then, and there was no subterfuge required.
Look, all these stupid conspiracy theories, all of them fail on Occam’s Razor: there is too much multiplication of entities. That is, supposition layered on supposition held together by induction creates an edifice that falls under it’s own weight. This is so obviously true in this case that it hurts
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February 10th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Annaberri said:
Neither the German internment of Jews and other undesirables nor the American internment of Japanese citizens nor any mass internment I’m aware of in history, has been done without the public’s knowledge – in fact it has generally happened in part due to public demand.
In the case of the US, the “War Relocation Camps” for Japanese citizens was not done seceretly by the government under the cover of something else. It was caving to public demand. At the time there was already some racism and fear over Japanese, who were a tiny minority in the US and lived mostly in seperate communities and after the attack on Pearl Harbor there was really no opposition (in fact there was a lot of support) of interning Japanese. I’m not defending the practice, but in some sense, it might have been necessary because there were attacks on Japanese Americans and groups calling for bounties on their heads.
In the case of Germany, the public may not have been aware of the fact that Jews were being gasses by the millions but they certainly knew they were being expelled from cities, deported, put in ghettos and so on. The rounding up of Jews would not have been possible if not for the general cooperation of the public who were the ones reporting Jews to the authorities and were in general support of the measure.
What you really need is a situation where there is a very distinct group, feared and seen as outsiders from the community. In this day and age in the US there is really such a big thing with the tolerance police that the idea that even considering profiling of Arabs or whatever other threat you might consider is not going to be accepted in general. The day that you start seeing a lot of banners calling for a single group to be expelled from town or something then you can start getting concerned.
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February 18th, 2009 at 3:17 am
What about all of these coffins I’ve heard of that FEMA was supposedly buying? What are they for? Most of these theories I see on these crazy sites I push off as nonsense, but when the safety of me, my family and friends is allegedly at stake, I tend to float away from my rational train of thought.
Also, what do you think of this?: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5425163/description.html
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February 18th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Anonymous said:
Yeah yeah yeah, I’ve heard about the plastic burial vaults that are stored in Georgia by the side of a highway. They’re polyguard burial vaults. There is no evidence that they have anything to do with Fema but some people have pointed out that at one of the storage sites the owner who leased the area said it was from the federal government.
As it turns out, the liners were bought by the Veterans Administration for about $880,000 and not FEMA: http://www.fedspending.org/fpds/fpds.php?reptype=r&detail=-1&sortby=f&datype=T&reptype=r&database=fpds&database=fpds&parent_id=270640&fiscal_year=2007&record_num=f500
I’ve heard that they have become “standard issue” for burials by the VA.
The Veterans Administration has had some difficulty in catering to all the burials they are responsible for since the 1990’s. It is estimated that upwards of 1000 World War II veterans die every day and even more veterans are dying every day when you count the Korean War, the Vietnam War and other conflicts. Another thing is that even non-combat veterans are entitled to a military burial, so anyone who was stationed in Germany in the 1950’s or worked as an enlisted file clerk at a military base in the 1970’s is considered a veteran.
Of course, any casualties from the war in Iraq or Afghanistan would also be handled by the VA, but these are a tiny proportion of their load, compared to the older veterans going back to WWII who are dying in their old age.
A significant proportion of veterans families ask for military honors and services for the burial and some want to be buried in a national cemetery. There are currently over 100 National Cemeteries operated by the VA, and due to the amount of requests and reduced space, there are plans for more. Arlington cemetery has become so filled with burials that it is now restricted and veterans can only be buried there if they have received certain honors or have other special recognition.
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February 18th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
A bit off-topic but veterans can also asked to be buried at sea from a navy ship (ashes spread at sea really).
Having served on two submarines, I’ve participated in a few myself. Any sort of wind results in ashes plastered all over the sail and top of the hull so we always did immediately before submerging (they got washed off once we dove). I always felt that it was nowhere near as dignified as it ought to be (or as dignified as the families probably though it would be).
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February 19th, 2009 at 3:08 am
I wrote a post about this. Apparently there has been some confusion. The largest of the outdoor burial vault storage yards is actually not run by Polyguard, it’s run by another company. Those are private and in storage. But Polyguard also makes nearly identical burrial liners and I believe they use the same plastics manufacturer to produce them in Georgia. At least on one occasion there were some stored outdoors for the VA which does buy a lot of them.
Chuck P. said:
That never really seemed like a proper “burial at sea” to me. Burial means the body, not the ashes. That’s just scattering ashes. If I were to be buried at sea, I’d demand that by intact corpse be wrapped in a sheet, weighted down and heaved over the side.
Actually no, scratch that. I’d want to be shot out of the torpedo tube.
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March 5th, 2009 at 12:43 am
Glenn Beck: “I can’t debunk FEMA Camps”.
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March 5th, 2009 at 3:52 am
drbuzz0 said:
Straight at a Greenpeace vessel with 20 kilos of plastique strapped to your head?
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