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		<title>By: Depleted Cranium &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Are these &#8220;Chemtrail&#8221; Planes? No.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Depleted Cranium &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Are these &#8220;Chemtrail&#8221; Planes? No.</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] conspiracy theories is that if there actually were planes spraying chemicals for some evil purpose, they would surely be seen on the ground during maintenance, refueling or topping off the chemical tanks. It&#8217;s a bit difficult, after all, to hide a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbuzz0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 23:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;26433&quot;]Greetings. This was recently sent to me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDR-r1ds9t8

Can any of you specifically explain the purpose of fittings
we see on these aircraft and what the nature of the emissions
from them happen to be? They do seem to be unrelated to the
jet engines...

Thanks, LNJ[/quote]

Not only are those clips of fuel dumps, as is stated by others, but the creator of that video blatantly stole the videos of others who had posted them as being fuel dumps.

The first clip is originally from here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbTm3G--wYo&amp;feature=related

The exact same video!   Except in the original, the poster explains it was a fuel dump due to a medical emergency on the plane.

Another stolen clip for the video is originally posted here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVKwMivhnmw

exact same clip but the original poster explains it&#039;s a 777 doing a fuel dump

Just search for fuel dump on youtube.  I would not be surprised if you can find even more</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/contrail-science-has-good-science-attracts-loonies/#comment-26433"><b>leif said:</b></a></p>
<blockquote cite="http://depletedcranium.com/contrail-science-has-good-science-attracts-loonies/#comment-26433"><p>
Greetings. This was recently sent to me:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDR-r1ds9t8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDR-r1ds9t8</a></p>
<p>Can any of you specifically explain the purpose of fittings<br />
we see on these aircraft and what the nature of the emissions<br />
from them happen to be? They do seem to be unrelated to the<br />
jet engines&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks, LNJ</p>
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<p>Not only are those clips of fuel dumps, as is stated by others, but the creator of that video blatantly stole the videos of others who had posted them as being fuel dumps.</p>
<p>The first clip is originally from here:  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbTm3G--wYo&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbTm3G&#8211;wYo&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p>The exact same video!   Except in the original, the poster explains it was a fuel dump due to a medical emergency on the plane.</p>
<p>Another stolen clip for the video is originally posted here:  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVKwMivhnmw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVKwMivhnmw</a></p>
<p>exact same clip but the original poster explains it&#8217;s a 777 doing a fuel dump</p>
<p>Just search for fuel dump on youtube.  I would not be surprised if you can find even more</p>
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		<title>By: DV82XL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DV82XL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 19:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;26433&quot;]Greetings. This was recently sent to me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDR-r1ds9t8

Can any of you specifically explain the purpose of fittings
we see on these aircraft and what the nature of the emissions
from them happen to be? They do seem to be unrelated to the
jet engines...

Thanks, LNJ[/quote]


Look up &quot;fuel dumps&quot; with the audio intact because that&#039;s all this video is showing. Dumping fuel for emergency landings (the captain says so over the loud speaker).

At 3:16 the aircraft is shownï»¿ to be an Evergreen 747-100 Supertanker, N470EV, made for fighting fires.

Believe it or not I have been on this birds sister ship N479EV, (when it was on the ground) a few years ago at McClellan Field outside of Sacramento, California.

I suspect the video was taken during the FAA certification flights. The FAA had several concerns about this design because of the weights and flight envelopes it was expected to fly, and demanded a real wringing out before it would issue a cert.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/contrail-science-has-good-science-attracts-loonies/#comment-26433"><b>leif said:</b></a></p>
<blockquote cite="http://depletedcranium.com/contrail-science-has-good-science-attracts-loonies/#comment-26433"><p>
Greetings. This was recently sent to me:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDR-r1ds9t8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDR-r1ds9t8</a></p>
<p>Can any of you specifically explain the purpose of fittings<br />
we see on these aircraft and what the nature of the emissions<br />
from them happen to be? They do seem to be unrelated to the<br />
jet engines&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks, LNJ</p>
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<p>Look up &#8220;fuel dumps&#8221; with the audio intact because that&#8217;s all this video is showing. Dumping fuel for emergency landings (the captain says so over the loud speaker).</p>
<p>At 3:16 the aircraft is shownï»¿ to be an Evergreen 747-100 Supertanker, N470EV, made for fighting fires.</p>
<p>Believe it or not I have been on this birds sister ship N479EV, (when it was on the ground) a few years ago at McClellan Field outside of Sacramento, California.</p>
<p>I suspect the video was taken during the FAA certification flights. The FAA had several concerns about this design because of the weights and flight envelopes it was expected to fly, and demanded a real wringing out before it would issue a cert.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 18:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;26433&quot;]Greetings. This was recently sent to me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDR-r1ds9t8

Can any of you specifically explain the purpose of fittings
we see on these aircraft and what the nature of the emissions
from them happen to be? They do seem to be unrelated to the
jet engines...

Thanks, LNJ[/quote]

Looks to me like someone patched together a bunch of videos of fuel dump. Hope no one got hurt in the emergency landings that those may have been part of...</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/contrail-science-has-good-science-attracts-loonies/#comment-26433"><b>leif said:</b></a></p>
<blockquote cite="http://depletedcranium.com/contrail-science-has-good-science-attracts-loonies/#comment-26433"><p>
Greetings. This was recently sent to me:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDR-r1ds9t8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDR-r1ds9t8</a></p>
<p>Can any of you specifically explain the purpose of fittings<br />
we see on these aircraft and what the nature of the emissions<br />
from them happen to be? They do seem to be unrelated to the<br />
jet engines&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks, LNJ</p>
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<p>Looks to me like someone patched together a bunch of videos of fuel dump. Hope no one got hurt in the emergency landings that those may have been part of&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: leif</title>
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		<dc:creator>leif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 18:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings. This was recently sent to me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDR-r1ds9t8

Can any of you specifically explain the purpose of fittings 
we see on these aircraft and what the nature of the emissions 
from them happen to be? They do seem to be unrelated to the
jet engines...

Thanks, LNJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings. This was recently sent to me:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDR-r1ds9t8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDR-r1ds9t8</a></p>
<p>Can any of you specifically explain the purpose of fittings<br />
we see on these aircraft and what the nature of the emissions<br />
from them happen to be? They do seem to be unrelated to the<br />
jet engines&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks, LNJ</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which brings us back to that quackpot &#039;madman&#039; Hutchinson.  Perhaps Los Alamos hosted him for over a week to discern whether he was an intelligence threat or not, to see whether he could control anti-gravity.  Indeed, looking at his assortment of subsequent work shows that he can&#039;t control his experiments consistently and lacks the mathematical knowledge required to further his success.  Thus he is only a danger to himself.  Evidence exists that Los Alamos was already further along in their own research at the same time that they studied the Hutchinson effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which brings us back to that quackpot &#8216;madman&#8217; Hutchinson.  Perhaps Los Alamos hosted him for over a week to discern whether he was an intelligence threat or not, to see whether he could control anti-gravity.  Indeed, looking at his assortment of subsequent work shows that he can&#8217;t control his experiments consistently and lacks the mathematical knowledge required to further his success.  Thus he is only a danger to himself.  Evidence exists that Los Alamos was already further along in their own research at the same time that they studied the Hutchinson effect.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drbuzzo writes;
&quot;Muon-catalyzed fusion is a type of cold fusion that is well established, published in papers and sourced.&quot;

Forget Muon-catalyzed, go to the LENR stuff. 

David writes;
     Enjoy your fairy-tale Bryan. I hear Wonderland is an interesting place, where all kinds of odd things   
     happen. Iâ€™ll stay here on Earth though, in the physical world. I kinda like it.

How does this http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&amp;videoid=3341937 correlate to HAARP ?  David is this video of the mythical wonderland?  Is it &#039;of this earth&#039; 
A precautionary word to you David, steer well clear of quantum mechanics, it will turn your physical world 
upside down much more than you will likely prefer. 

The established scientific meme that Tesla in his later life was too eccentric to accomplish anything worthwhile is a great falsehood.   The scientific community is uncomfortable with Tesla&#039;s genius later work and claims mainly because they can not piece it together (and those pesky physics laws).  History will show that Tesla&#039;s later life works were absolutely genius and far more profound than the litany of his currently accepted early works.  Keep in mind that the U.S. Government was keenly interested in Tesla&#039;s &#039;bizarre&#039; later life work (it is in fact seen in arrays such as HAARP.)  This is not fantasy it is actually available for your discernment.
Warmly,
Bryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drbuzzo writes;<br />
&#8220;Muon-catalyzed fusion is a type of cold fusion that is well established, published in papers and sourced.&#8221;</p>
<p>Forget Muon-catalyzed, go to the LENR stuff. </p>
<p>David writes;<br />
     Enjoy your fairy-tale Bryan. I hear Wonderland is an interesting place, where all kinds of odd things<br />
     happen. Iâ€™ll stay here on Earth though, in the physical world. I kinda like it.</p>
<p>How does this <a href="http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&amp;videoid=3341937" rel="nofollow">http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&amp;videoid=3341937</a> correlate to HAARP ?  David is this video of the mythical wonderland?  Is it &#8216;of this earth&#8217;<br />
A precautionary word to you David, steer well clear of quantum mechanics, it will turn your physical world<br />
upside down much more than you will likely prefer. </p>
<p>The established scientific meme that Tesla in his later life was too eccentric to accomplish anything worthwhile is a great falsehood.   The scientific community is uncomfortable with Tesla&#8217;s genius later work and claims mainly because they can not piece it together (and those pesky physics laws).  History will show that Tesla&#8217;s later life works were absolutely genius and far more profound than the litany of his currently accepted early works.  Keep in mind that the U.S. Government was keenly interested in Tesla&#8217;s &#8216;bizarre&#8217; later life work (it is in fact seen in arrays such as HAARP.)  This is not fantasy it is actually available for your discernment.<br />
Warmly,<br />
Bryan</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it seems like doubting is the prevailing attitude here.  I think we differ in our approaches somewhat.  I believe that science is an evolving process, one that has definitely not arrived.  In 50 years what we think we know today will be mostly re-written and proven to be either completely incorrect or at best very incomplete.  Laws of Physics are just one example (HOT topic, time for the entrenched scientists to come 
completely unglued lol)

It&#039;s like thumbing through an old 1950&#039;s Mothers Medical Dictionary, most of the 
information contained is now known to be far from correct or a woefully incomplete 
picture.  

When one looks into Brown&#039;s Gas or HAARP&#039;s true capabilities one is immediately 
slapped in the face by an entrenched group of nearly hysterical &#039;established&#039; scientists who say it isn&#039;t so and that it can&#039;t be.  

Now David and Drbuzzo prefer the fairy tale angle with regards to brown&#039;s gas 
effects (although if they pay attention to the NASA paper, and to the creation of gemstones......) but the transmutation is also occurring in the area of Cold Fusion research as well.  Here we can find 
established scientists publishing results that are startling and include transmutation 
as well.  This is way &#039;too hot&#039; of a topic, very politicized issue with huge implications.  The trail of ruin and deceit on the subject extends back to Pons and Fleischman.  It could be that this aspect of it, 
transmutation, is the reason LENR is being suppressed here. And in this, LENR has 
something in common with Brown&#039;s Gas: Which also has transmuting and 
&quot;de-radiating&quot; abilities (treating radioactive materials with a hydroxy flame has been 
shown to remove over 90% of the radiation); just as radioactive materials in close 
proximity to operating LENR electrodes can lose their radioactivity. So there is a 
strong but poorly-understood link between the strange effects of Brown&#039;s Gas flames 
and LENR work.  The same transmutation is popping up in cold fusion experiments, 
to the dismay of at least one scientist who apparently had not intended to rock the 
establishment-science boat, Kevin Wolf. Other scientists are willing to step forward 
and tell the world that metals are changing into other substances inside their 
experimental apparatus. Distinguished professor John O&#039;Malley Bockris of Texas A&amp;M 
University organized a meeting and invited those scientists, but the university&#039;s 
chemistry department voted to kick his meeting off campus. Funny fact is, Texas 
A&amp;M is big in the hot-fusion business. In other words, some other high-salaried 
professors don&#039;t want the cold-fusion work to attract the research money. So their 
hostile actions are not as simple as embarrassment about alchemical-sounding words 
like transmutation. (Dr. Bockris wisely uses safer terminology, Low-energy Nuclear 
Reactions.)

http://www.lenr-canr.org/iccf10/ICCF10Abstracts.pdf
http://www.geocities.jp/hjrfq930/Cfcom/Histry/LENRC/lenrc2pref.htm
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTnucleartra.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it seems like doubting is the prevailing attitude here.  I think we differ in our approaches somewhat.  I believe that science is an evolving process, one that has definitely not arrived.  In 50 years what we think we know today will be mostly re-written and proven to be either completely incorrect or at best very incomplete.  Laws of Physics are just one example (HOT topic, time for the entrenched scientists to come<br />
completely unglued lol)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like thumbing through an old 1950&#8217;s Mothers Medical Dictionary, most of the<br />
information contained is now known to be far from correct or a woefully incomplete<br />
picture.  </p>
<p>When one looks into Brown&#8217;s Gas or HAARP&#8217;s true capabilities one is immediately<br />
slapped in the face by an entrenched group of nearly hysterical &#8216;established&#8217; scientists who say it isn&#8217;t so and that it can&#8217;t be.  </p>
<p>Now David and Drbuzzo prefer the fairy tale angle with regards to brown&#8217;s gas<br />
effects (although if they pay attention to the NASA paper, and to the creation of gemstones&#8230;&#8230;) but the transmutation is also occurring in the area of Cold Fusion research as well.  Here we can find<br />
established scientists publishing results that are startling and include transmutation<br />
as well.  This is way &#8216;too hot&#8217; of a topic, very politicized issue with huge implications.  The trail of ruin and deceit on the subject extends back to Pons and Fleischman.  It could be that this aspect of it,<br />
transmutation, is the reason LENR is being suppressed here. And in this, LENR has<br />
something in common with Brown&#8217;s Gas: Which also has transmuting and<br />
&#8220;de-radiating&#8221; abilities (treating radioactive materials with a hydroxy flame has been<br />
shown to remove over 90% of the radiation); just as radioactive materials in close<br />
proximity to operating LENR electrodes can lose their radioactivity. So there is a<br />
strong but poorly-understood link between the strange effects of Brown&#8217;s Gas flames<br />
and LENR work.  The same transmutation is popping up in cold fusion experiments,<br />
to the dismay of at least one scientist who apparently had not intended to rock the<br />
establishment-science boat, Kevin Wolf. Other scientists are willing to step forward<br />
and tell the world that metals are changing into other substances inside their<br />
experimental apparatus. Distinguished professor John O&#8217;Malley Bockris of Texas A&amp;M<br />
University organized a meeting and invited those scientists, but the university&#8217;s<br />
chemistry department voted to kick his meeting off campus. Funny fact is, Texas<br />
A&amp;M is big in the hot-fusion business. In other words, some other high-salaried<br />
professors don&#8217;t want the cold-fusion work to attract the research money. So their<br />
hostile actions are not as simple as embarrassment about alchemical-sounding words<br />
like transmutation. (Dr. Bockris wisely uses safer terminology, Low-energy Nuclear<br />
Reactions.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lenr-canr.org/iccf10/ICCF10Abstracts.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.lenr-canr.org/iccf10/ICCF10Abstracts.pdf</a><br />
<a href="http://www.geocities.jp/hjrfq930/Cfcom/Histry/LENRC/lenrc2pref.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.jp/hjrfq930/Cfcom/Histry/LENRC/lenrc2pref.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTnucleartra.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTnucleartra.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://depletedcranium.com/contrail-science-has-good-science-attracts-loonies/comment-page-1/#comment-13746</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious to those here skeptical of HAARP&#039;s true purposes and capabilities, why do you choose to believe the HAARP PR website propaganda over what Bernard Eastlund maintains HAARP is capable of?  HAARP is Eastlunds baby, and he is on record as steadfastly maintaining that HAARP matches his blueprint to a T and that it is definitely much more than an &#039;ionospheric tester&#039;  Drbuzzo?  David? The license plate guy?  Anyone?  

Regards 
-Bryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious to those here skeptical of HAARP&#8217;s true purposes and capabilities, why do you choose to believe the HAARP PR website propaganda over what Bernard Eastlund maintains HAARP is capable of?  HAARP is Eastlunds baby, and he is on record as steadfastly maintaining that HAARP matches his blueprint to a T and that it is definitely much more than an &#8216;ionospheric tester&#8217;  Drbuzzo?  David? The license plate guy?  Anyone?  </p>
<p>Regards<br />
-Bryan</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Link should read http://www.techbriefs.com/index.php?option=com_staticxt&amp;staticfile=/Briefs/June01/LEW16971.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link should read <a href="http://www.techbriefs.com/index.php?option=com_staticxt&amp;staticfile=/Briefs/June01/LEW16971.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.techbriefs.com/index.php?option=com_staticxt&amp;staticfile=/Briefs/June01/LEW16971.html</a></p>
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