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“Contrail Science” Has Good Science, Attracts Loonies

November 18th, 2008

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For some good information debunking the ridiculous “chemtrail” claims that have been made as of late, I highly recommend the website Contrail Science.   Even if you happen to be the rational type, who really does not need any more information to be convinced that chemtrails are just crazy, the site still has some interesting information on the science and history of contrails.

In addition to information debunking chemtrails, you can also find spectacular historic and modern photos of contrails and related aviation and meteorological interest.   One of my favorite posts was one that did an excellent post debunking a local news story that claimed to have found barium being sprayed by government aircraft.

It should not be much of a surprise, however, that any effort to dispell silly myths with some good science and common sense would attract some angry responses by conspiracy theorists who insist that the author is either blind or part of the conspiracy

Here are a few:

wildwelder az

more of goverment shills trying to dis credit people

TELL US THE TRUTH AND STOP SPAYING US LIKE INSECTS.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=okB-489l6MI

wildwelder az

dude you can say it is “debunked” all you want here in arizona especially the phoenix area “they”start spraying on monday morning at 0800 am ,spray until sunset,then start again on tuesday am untill sunset and wednesday we have overcast skies,people cannot breathe ,and “oh”it is a miracle”we are going to get rain in the south of our state and snow up north!!
say what you want “they”are spraying us like insects.

Anonymous

I fail to see how comparisons with tap water, especially American tap water, the water you get fromyour taps is some of the more heavily bastardised in the world, can prove or disprove anything…

perhaps it should be compared to the clean rain water, purified by nature that falls from the sky here in NZ… i could send you some from milford sound, they average over 6m/year, the rain clouds come in from the west where there is but ocean for 1,500+ Kilometres

Mehdi

Barium is the least of the problem. They did not mention the red blood cells and pathogens in those chemicals.
and why they always spray this crap over populated areas? and what is all the secrecy about?
Ozone hole my a**. the supposed hole is over the south pole or Australia why the hell spraying the northern hemisphere?
Global warming is another Hoax! It is BS. dig NASA for some valid info if you can and you will find that the sun has been getting hotter for the bast 100 years (about the same time these british-israeli bastards took over America) and the frozen lakes around one of the Jupiter’s moon has melted, is that because some ppl drive SUVs o earth too? WTH?
don’t beieve anything you hear from main stream media liars. they are owned by the same british-israeli bastards.

any ways..
You know if the govts do anything for the good of the people which I have not seen lately, they would announce the hell out of it until we get sick and tired of hearing about it , then they use that to raise the taxes (again) now these planes cost $20,000 dollars Per Day, Per Flight ,Each! They come every day (7 days a week) and spray and there are many planes , …it adds up to millions of dollars per week, who is paying for all that?

And for those fools who think this is normal contrail (water vapor/condensation) I ask why then there are NO trails off the passenger jets which fly at almost the same altitude and at the same time??!!
And why they turn around and come back ? dont they need to go some damn place?
and why the trails spread like cancer over the skies above? are you blind or stupid or both?
until the sky is hazy and the beautiful blue asky has this shi**y color to it?
you must also be color blind too (no that goes back to being retarded/stupid)! bcs I dont think anyone can make a mistake about the discolored skies!

Imhotech

There is plenty of evidence of the “sprayer plane nozzels”. Your efforts to debunk substantial proof the chemtrails are abundant, will fail very shortly.

Me

AAhh nice goverment sponsord disinfo page!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can i pleeeeese by your soul? or else! I noticed somone writing about education:

Look up H.R.2977, H.R 3616, Owning the weather by 2025, Treaty on open skies.

Now you can go back to sleep!

Maximus

Let me see if I have this correct?

An obscure person sets up a site to tell everyone that the Chem trails they personally witness below the cloud level are all just perfectly ordinary Contrails.

How unscientific is that?

How could anyone possibley know this for a fact?

Indeed, is this not BUSH Science?

As in 911 BUSH Science?

Please Check this out and explain how contrails can form so low in Summer?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pL50vs899uw

WILDWELDER AZ

WELL I THINK you are a government shill ,there are alot of you N.W.O. types out here now trying to make the “sheeple” think that what they are really seeing is not what is happening

i spent too many years in the military and spent alot of time flying to know the difference between a CLOUD/CONTRAIL and CHEMICAL SPRAY.

Are all these comments on the page just trolls and flamebaiters who don’t really buy into this bull?   Well, perhaps a few, but some are just too persistant, too detailed and probably are from legitimate CT’ers.   There certainly are people who believe this stuff and react with a combination of anger and a supperiority complex that they “can see the truth” when confronted with some rational science that debunks their pet theories.

(Believe me, I  myself get plenty of communications from people who believe that this stuff is legit and that I am either blindly repeating the lies of the conspirators or that I’m being paid off by them.   Yes, people seriously believe that.)

I personally applaud “Uncinus,” the author of the blog.   He’s done an excellent job of providing rich content and very thouroughly refuting all the chemtrail silliness with solid facts and information.   Contrail Science is definately a site fighting the good fight.


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    bryan Says:

    Which brings us back to that quackpot ‘madman’ Hutchinson. Perhaps Los Alamos hosted him for over a week to discern whether he was an intelligence threat or not, to see whether he could control anti-gravity. Indeed, looking at his assortment of subsequent work shows that he can’t control his experiments consistently and lacks the mathematical knowledge required to further his success. Thus he is only a danger to himself. Evidence exists that Los Alamos was already further along in their own research at the same time that they studied the Hutchinson effect.


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    leif Says:

    Greetings. This was recently sent to me:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDR-r1ds9t8

    Can any of you specifically explain the purpose of fittings
    we see on these aircraft and what the nature of the emissions
    from them happen to be? They do seem to be unrelated to the
    jet engines…

    Thanks, LNJ


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    Matthew Says:

            leif said:

    Greetings. This was recently sent to me:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDR-r1ds9t8

    Can any of you specifically explain the purpose of fittings
    we see on these aircraft and what the nature of the emissions
    from them happen to be? They do seem to be unrelated to the
    jet engines…

    Thanks, LNJ

    Looks to me like someone patched together a bunch of videos of fuel dump. Hope no one got hurt in the emergency landings that those may have been part of…


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    DV82XL Says:

            leif said:

    Greetings. This was recently sent to me:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDR-r1ds9t8

    Can any of you specifically explain the purpose of fittings
    we see on these aircraft and what the nature of the emissions
    from them happen to be? They do seem to be unrelated to the
    jet engines…

    Thanks, LNJ

    Look up “fuel dumps” with the audio intact because that’s all this video is showing. Dumping fuel for emergency landings (the captain says so over the loud speaker).

    At 3:16 the aircraft is shown to be an Evergreen 747-100 Supertanker, N470EV, made for fighting fires.

    Believe it or not I have been on this birds sister ship N479EV, (when it was on the ground) a few years ago at McClellan Field outside of Sacramento, California.

    I suspect the video was taken during the FAA certification flights. The FAA had several concerns about this design because of the weights and flight envelopes it was expected to fly, and demanded a real wringing out before it would issue a cert.


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    drbuzz0 Says:

            leif said:

    Greetings. This was recently sent to me:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDR-r1ds9t8

    Can any of you specifically explain the purpose of fittings
    we see on these aircraft and what the nature of the emissions
    from them happen to be? They do seem to be unrelated to the
    jet engines…

    Thanks, LNJ

    Not only are those clips of fuel dumps, as is stated by others, but the creator of that video blatantly stole the videos of others who had posted them as being fuel dumps.

    The first clip is originally from here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbTm3G–wYo&feature=related

    The exact same video! Except in the original, the poster explains it was a fuel dump due to a medical emergency on the plane.

    Another stolen clip for the video is originally posted here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVKwMivhnmw

    exact same clip but the original poster explains it’s a 777 doing a fuel dump

    Just search for fuel dump on youtube. I would not be surprised if you can find even more


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