Conspiracy Theory: George H W Bush – On the Grassy Knoll?

September 10th, 2008

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Conspiracy theorists seem to love to make ridiculous connections that prove things like how a small group of people are responsible for everything evil in the world. According to some, the Bush Family, the Skull and Bones, the Free Masons and Major League Baseball are all organizations dedicated to dastardly deeds and are responsible for a large scheme that involves the 9/11 attacks, the moon landing hoax, the alien crash in Roswell New Mexico, the Nazis, the sinking of Atlantis and anything else evil, creepy or mystical you can think of.

Here’s a new one (at least for me), though: The Bushes were behind the Kennedy assassination, the granddaddy of all conspiracy theories. It would seem like the first logical step of any conspiracy theorist would be to claim the current president George W. Bush was the operative involved, but that might be just a little too far fetched as he was 17 at the time.

So it falls to daddy Bush, as in George H. W. Bush. At the time of the assassination, Bush Sr. was the head of a company called Zapata Offshore Company, a subsidiary of Zapata Corporation, the oil company which George H. W. Bush helped found and which would become the source of much of the family wealth. Bush Sr. wasn’t involved in politics very much at the time. He would become the head of his county’s republican party in 1964 and then run for the Senate. He lost and went back to the corporate world for another two years until he won a seat in the congress in 1966. Later Bush would work as an envoy to China and eventually be apointed director of the CIA by Gerald Ford. But there’s no indication that he had any kind of connection to the FBI, CIA or any other agency in 1963.

So where is the evidence that Bush had anything to do with the Kennedy assassination. Well, it’s this photo:

Impressive, eh? The photo was taken about a half hour after the assassination and shows a group of people infront of the Texas School Book Depository. In the photo are investigators, news reporters and random people who happened to work in the building. There’s also a guy who kinda-sort looks a little like George H W Bush. Is it? Well, it could be. Or it could be someone else. Even if it were George H. W. Bush it doesn’t prove much. The man lived in Texas, though not in the Dallas area, but closer to Houston. Still, for a Texas buisiness man to be in Dallas on a given day is hardly proof of anything.

Here’s how the consparicy theorists see it:

The photo of George H W Bush shown for comparison was taken in 1964, and it does (kinda) look like him, although the photo is very grainy and low resolution. Well, as it turns out, the conspiracy theorists didn’t even bother doing their homework and finding out if they could get a more definitive answer. I was able to find a much higher quality version of this same image online from the Sixth Floor Museum.

Here it’s shown next to a 1964 photo of George H W Bush, the same one used in the comparison above.

FAIL. Sorry but that is NOT George H. W. Bush. It does look a little bit like him, but there are a few major distinctions. George H. W. Bush has a chin that sticks out prominently, yet the man on the left clearly does not have as much of a protruding chin. The brow line on the man on the left is a bit heavier and his nose does not have as much of a point to it. The hair line is similar, but not identical.

The other thing cited is that a memo surfaced which showed George H. W. Bush had made a report regarding the assassination. This appears to be genuine and it shows that GHW Bush had advised law enforcement, after hearing that the president had been assassinated that he recalled someone he knew talking about it. To put this in context, this is one of literally thousands of reports made to law enforcement that day by Texas residents, who were shocked by the event and were providing any information they had on who might be involved. The memo also happens to note that he was in Houston at the time but was headed to Dallas later in the day for unrelated reasons. (This happening after the event.)

There have also been allegations that Bush’s company had been working with the CIA in the early 1960′s on operations related to spying on Cuba or attempting to oust Fidel Castro. That may or may not be true, and if it is, they were certainly not the only company involved in that sort of thing.

Another Memo surfaced in the 1988 presidential election which was claimed to be to the FBI director J Edgar Hoover. This memo cites “George Bush of the CIA” as a source for information on the assassination. The memo is highly suspect for numerous reasons. In addition to the time it surfaced and the fact that the origin of the copy has never been given, it refers to Bush as “of the CIA,” implying he was a member of the agency and not an operative or a cooperating corporate entity, something which he was clearly not in 1963.

Whether or not Bush’s company was involved with the CIA at all has become something of a conspiracy theory on its own. Being an offshore drilling company, it would not be that much of a stretch to think that the CIA may have used the company to supply transport ships or platforms for covert operations. Still, that has absolutely nothing to do with any alleged conspiracy involving the death of John F Kennedy.

What truly amazes me in the end, is how far these conspiracy theorists will stretch things and use something as poor as a grainy photograph of a man in Dealy Plaza after the assassination that bares a mild resemblance to Bush Sr. to claim that he must have somehow been behind the planning and execution of a big consparicy. Even if he was, why the hell would he have been physically at the site? The whole thing is as stupid and ridiculous as most consparicy theories. Inductive logic, very far reaching attempts to connect things, and the enlarge feature of Photoshop badly overused.

By the way, I’m not saying I am a big fan of George W. Bush or George H. W. Bush. Just that the whole idea of a grainy photo (that they didn’t even bother finding a better copy of) and a suspicious memo copy don’t mean that he shot JFK.


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22 Responses to “Conspiracy Theory: George H W Bush – On the Grassy Knoll?”

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    nickobert testein Says:

    who knows. certainly not you and certainly not me. however, it is abundantly clear you need to read more of the history of this subject if you want to avoid buffoonery. ever hear of joannides? even gerald posner now discredits his own book “case closed” because of the cia’s withholding of key information from him (not to mention from congress in 1977).

    the etymological roots of conspire means to “breathe together”, overhearing an impending crime but acting after the fact makes one complicit in conspiracy, and when that crime is the murder of a president, in this country you are as guilty as the man who pulled the trigger.

    if you don’t like our laws or understand history, why not move to another country and take up sports writing?


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    DV82XL Says:

            nickobert testein said:

    who knows. certainly not you and certainly not me. however, it is abundantly clear you need to read more of the history of this subject if you want to avoid buffoonery. ever hear of joannides? even gerald posner now discredits his own book “case closed” because of the cia’s withholding of key information from him (not to mention from congress in 1977).

    the etymological roots of conspire means to “breathe together”, overhearing an impending crime but acting after the fact makes one complicit in conspiracy, and when that crime is the murder of a president, in this country you are as guilty as the man who pulled the trigger.

    if you don’t like our laws or understand history, why not move to another country and take up sports writing?

    Wow how breathtakingly arrogant – quite bracing this early in the day, particularly from someone so obviously delusional.


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    Winston Says:

            nickobert testein said:

    the etymological roots of conspire means to “breathe together”, overhearing an impending crime but acting after the fact makes one complicit in conspiracy, and when that crime is the murder of a president, in this country you are as guilty as the man who pulled the trigger.

    Not exactly the case here. As the author says, thousands of people reported something to their local police of FBI field office after the shocking murder. They reported anyone who they knew had been blowing smoke around about the president and talking in a way that probably seemed rhetorical at the time but later would seem more sinister in hindsight. If someone was in Dallas and they had been talking very strongly about Kennedy it would have seemed a lot more damning once Kennedy was shot.

    I don’t know if GHWB’s company worked for the CIA and they might have, but the point here is people are saying that GHWB was somehow involved in the assassination conspiracy (which probably isn’t even real) based on an extremely low quality photo that doesn’t even show him. They don’t even bother to get a better copy of it!


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    Frank Henry Says:

    I have found evidence that George H. W. Bush was involved with the CIA in the early sixties.


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    Jerry in Detroit Says:

    There are a number of reasons why the Kennedy Conspiracy Theorists just won’t go away. A lot of it involves loose ends, unlikely events and unanswered questions.
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    Lee Harvey Oswald was the perfect patsy; Almost too perfect. Think about it. A Communist sympathizer who immigrated to the Soviet Union, renounced his U.S. citizenship, and, yet, was able to return to the U.S. with no apparent difficulty. Why didn’t one of the three letter agencies didn’t pull him in for a rigorous interrogation?
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    LHO was trained as a marksman by the Marines. This means he had some of the best rifle training available at the time. Nevertheless, LHO was an indifferent shooter who did little to maintain his skills. Shooters are invariably trained on a level field. Shooting uphill or downhill shifts the bullet trajectory upwards. No information has been uncovered that LHO studied or trained for shooting on an incline.
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    The rifle, an Italian Carcano built in 1940, was noted for its’ smooth action. Accuracy was another story entirely. It was adequate by military standards of the day but not very accurate by 1960s standards. 20 year old ammunition did nothing to improve accuracy. According to the Warren Report, the rifle was not properly sighted in and hit about two inches to the right and about five inches high from the point of aim. In other words, the misalignment exacerbated the problem of shooting on an incline.
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    Governor Connelly was struck by one of the bullets and carried jacket fragments in his wrist for the rest of his life. At his death, the family refused forensic recovery of the fragments prior to cremation. Recovering the fragments would have allowed spectroscopic comparison with other recovered bullets. As it stands, it leaves the appearance of cover-up.
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    It’s not impossible that the Kennedy assassination occurred as the Warren Report concludes. My conclusion is that if it did happen this way, it was by sheer chance rather than by careful planning & preparation. Worse yet, it is not all that difficult to set up a chain of evidence that pointed to LHO while the real shooter(s)/conspirators disappeared.


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    DV82XL Says:

    Nothing gets them crawling out of the woodwork like good a JFK conspiracy post, eh?


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    drbuzz0 Says:

    LHO was basically just a loser. He went to the soviet union and felt like it wasn’t what he expected and he came back to find the US didn’t really give two s***s that he had gone there and nobody here really cared about him. The FBI had a file on him, but it wasn’t much interesting. He was just a 24 year old under achiever.

    He sucked as a marine. He was a decent shot though and the shot he took at JFK was not that difficult. Also, he missed on one of the three shots and one of them was not fatal, so on the last shot, where he took a little more time to aim, he got at least slightly lucky.

    Oswald was desperate to make something of his life and to do something significant. His plan was not to shoot JFK but to kill General Edwin Walker. His plan didn’t work out although he almost hit Walker and damaged his home. This was not discovered until after his death.

    Kennedy was being driven by the building that Oswald happened to work in. He couldn’t resist that kind of opportunity. It was just a crime of opportunity.

    The thing that makes people think he must have been a fall guy was that he was shot by hot-headed loose cannon Jack Ruby. Of course, this just replaces Oswald with Ruby who was taken into custody. The “hit” was not a very good one either. Oswald was shot in the stomach. Hardly a sure thing, he could have easily survived if the bullet had been an inch or so different. It only made things look more suspicious and put Ruby in custody. If Ruby was a hit man then you have to ask: what possibly could be the price to pay someone to kill in a police station and know that by doing so they’ll be caught and sentenced to life in prison or possibly death.

    Ruby was just another guy who wanted to go down in history and do something great. He wasn’t really playing with a full deck either.

    The thing about shooting Kennedy is that it wasn’t really difficult or a big plot to pull off. A guy is driving by on a published rout in a slow-moving convertible. Anyone in the crowed could have killed him if they had wanted to badly enough. The price would be knowing they’d probably be caught for it. Nobody did however, except for one.


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    Q Says:

            Frank Henry said:

    I have found evidence that George H. W. Bush was involved with the CIA in the early sixties.

    So? A lot of companies and people were. What the hell does that prove?


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    Buff and Smug Says:

    Lets just look at this from the perspective of who GHWB was at the time: What would be the motive of George H W Bush, an oil company exec to kill the president? CIA? No. At most his company would possibly have been providing contract work to the CIA but that hardly turns the CEO of such a company into a good planner and hitman for the hit itself. Is it because of politics? Killing JFK replaces him with LBJ, who is actually even more liberal so if it were some kind of anti-left thing it would not help at all. And why would he have to be at the location? It’s not like GHWB is known for being a sniper or anything. People called him a “Whimp”

    There are two possible explanations for the assassination:

    1. A global conspiracy of evil and underground organizations that goes from oil companies to the mob to the CIA and for some reason they really did not like Kennedy.

    2. One deranged and desperate individual wanted to kill the president because it was a big target to make something historic and he thought it would be epic.

    tends to be the one that is proven for other assassination attempts. The guy who crashed a plane into the Clinton Whitehouse (it was a small one-engine deal), Hinkley who shot Reagan, Charles Guiteau, who assassinated president Garfield, John Wilks Booth, who was obsessed with the rights of the South and enraged by Lincoln (and had, at most minimal support from others), Mark Chapman, the obsessed fan of Lennon, the crazy guy who shot President McKinley. All of these guys fit the same profile as Oswald. Obsessed and with delusions of grandeur.


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    G.R.L. Cowan, hydrogen-to-boron convert Says:

    It’s so silly making up theories involving physical proximity when the Roswell aliens can do, remotely, any bad thing you might want done.


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    CBMTTek Says:

            Q said:

    So?

    A lot of companies and people were.

    What the hell does that prove?

    I think it was a joke…

    It is well known that Bush was in the CIA.


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    CBMTTek Says:

            Jerry in Detroit said:

    There are a number of reasons why the Kennedy Conspiracy Theorists just won’t go away. A lot of it involves loose ends, unlikely events and unanswered questions.

    And, that is the problem with conspiracy theorists.

    Loose ends, unanswered questions, and coincidences are a starting place for an investigation, not proof.

    Any investigation will reach the point where further investigation will not significantly change the outcome. It is at that point the report is written, and the investigation ends. Not every nitnoid piece of evidence will be investigated, and there will be unanswered questions as well as unexplained coincidences. It is called real life, deal with it.


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    drbuzz0 Says:

    Most of the conspiracy theories revolve around a very elaborate plot to kill the president in Deally Plaza using multiple snipers, one of them on the “Grassy Knoll” as well as a planned fall-guy, a hitman to take out the fall guy, plans to hide evidence etc.

    What they tend to leave out is why it would be done this way. That would be a terribly unreliable way to kill the president. For one thing, the “grassy knoll” was open and in broad daylight. Any sniper there could easily have been photographed by any of the dozens of cameras. No photographs show anything conclusive (although some would argue that they see something in the shadows), but if there were someone there, then the fact that nothing is provable from a photograph is just a stroke of good luck. Had the camera had good film and taken it at the right time the person would have been shown. Had someone in the crowd had a handgun they could have seen and shot the sniper. Dozens of witnesses could have seen him or someone could have jumped him. The area was only a few feet from several people (all have said they don’t believe any shots came from that area. Aberham Zapruder’s secretary strongly argued for her whole life that, although she could not tell the location of the shots, they were most definately not that close to her and that she had a full view of the area and never saw anything suspicious”

    This is even true for the drain pipe theories or sinper in a tree. Any of these could have been seen or caught.

    Also, this kind of shooting is not a very reliable way to kill someone. The first shot missed kennedy. The second in the throat was not fatal. What if Kennedy had ducked? What if the limo driver realized what was happening and gunned the car while swerving? In that case he could easily have survived. Even the shot that killed him was just a couple of inches from missing.

    There are also claims that there were agents involved near the car or even in the car (such as the driver). Let me ask you, what the hell would I have to pay you to sit in a car a few feet away from someone we’re about to be shooting at with high powered rifles? I don’t know about you, but as good as military snipers are, there’s still no way I want to be even in that general area!

    If some big organization (the CIA, mob, Soviet Union, Cubans) wanted to kill the president this would be the WORST way to do it. Unreliable, high risk, highly complex. No. The way they’d do it is to do it discretely. For example, infect him with a deadly pathogen. Use a poison that is fatal and extremely difficult to test for, ideally one that appears to be a natural death. Sabotage the control systems on Air Force One so it crashes.

    Such a method is lower risk, higher chance of success and above all else, it you hopefully won’t even give away the fact that it was planned and not a freak accident.


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    Q Says:

            CBMTTek said:

    I think it was a joke…

    It is well known that Bush was in the CIA.

    GHWB was CIA later on in his career, which was after he was a representative on the intelligence committee and an envoy to China and to the UN. But in 1963 he was in the private sector. He might have had some deals with the CIA to provide for them through his company or something, but I find it hard to believe that he was a bigwig back then. Being a CEO is a full time job and so is being a CIA administrator. Also, if he was in the CIA he would have not run for office because that would have been too public for a covert CIA operative.

    So yeah, I know he was a CIA man later, but I’m not convinced he was in the early 1960′s.


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    Llllllllllloyd Says:

    there’s no evidence that there was a conspiracy and none that the CIA was in any way involved. Bush may have been CIA in 1963. He may not have been.

    It does not matter. They offer a picture in Dealy plaza of a guy who looks a little like Bush but when you get a better picture it turns out it doesn’t really look like him. That is typical. So much for “proof” of anything. They pull this crap and then demand they are right and everyone else is a sheep. They can’t even bother finding the full size image. Pathetic.


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    brown kiflezghie Says:

    Was it bad weather or something?


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    Cheryl M. Says:

    Do you also think the similarity of photos of the train hobos near the knoll being that of the confessed E. Howard Hunt is similarly bogus? Do you think Mr. Hunt’s death bed recorded confession about “the event” is a hoax too? The hobo shot of Mr. Hunt is very convincing, and then his confession?

    I think you fail dude, you see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear.

    You’re on the side of some very hideous evil men awarding “freedom prizes” to one another for their extreme evil acts in government. (see Obama Awards Freedom Badge to George H.W. Bush. http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20101117/NEWS03/101117040/Obama-to-award-Medal-of-Freedom-to-George-H-W-Bush

    You don’t want to see videos about the Bush crime family do you? You’re too busy covering up evil to take the time to leave your false bubble world reality where evil is overlooked and therefore thrives.

    LBJ, E. Howard Hunt, Nixon, Hoover, Ford, were all involved in some degree. Sad thing men like you are still working hard to cover up this evil . It’s really clear now there’s a shadow government in the U.S. through the branch of the CIA.

    Sadly, you fail sir. You fail miserably as an American by participating in deliberately overlooking evidence in your attempts to disprove it. That Bush photo is him, and his biographer said Mr. Bush flew out of Dallas that day to a nearby town to make a fake call claiming he overheard a threat against the President. He did it only to show he was not in Dallas.

    You fail and you are a disgrace in my opinion. Men like you are the reason our country is such a mess.


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    DV82XL Says:

            Cheryl M. said:

    Men like you are the reason our country is such a mess.

    The United States of America is in a mess because air-heads like you are allowed to vote.


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    Cheryl M. Says:

    P.S. George H.W. Bush must be the only person in the United States who claims he didn’t remember where he was on November 22, 1963. Just a small oversight on your part. Like any corrupt lawyer, you omit relevant facts and focus on your bogus theories.


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    Targenor Says:

    Nice post, if someone thinks George Bush was behind it, and that is him on the photo, then explain why he was there?

    To check that the shooters did their job?
    If Bush where behind it, he wouldn´t been close to Dealey Plaza thatat day.

    I am convinced that LHO shot JFK, even though as someone in the comments earlier said it´s alot of unanswerd questions and loose ends in the case


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    drbuzz0 Says:

            Targenor said:

    I am convinced that LHO shot JFK, even though as someone in the comments earlier said it´s alot of unanswerd questions and loose ends in the case

    Tends to happen when the only guy who could definitively answer them all was killed shortly afterward.


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    Brenda Ann Joyce Says:

    I checked to see what George W.H. Bush’s mannerisms are through photos and one thing that got my attention was he often has his hand or hands in his pockets. The photos appear not to prove that it was GWHB but show similarities posted in this item. Here are a few photos:

    http://depletedcranium.com/bush_kennedy_assassination_dallas_cia_closeup.jpg
    http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Galleries/George%20H.W.%20Bush/George-HW-Bush-2-sized.jpg
    http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Galleries/George%20H.W.%20Bush/George-HW-Bush-25-sized.jpg
    http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Galleries/George%20H.W.%20Bush/George-HW-Bush-6-sized.jpg


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