It is something to worry about when you think in 20 years there might be so many brain tumors how will our med system deal with it?

Dont dismiss this. The head researcher for the phone companies said that it is proven to be very dangerous over time and like smoking it is a bad habit that ads up. Plus a lot of cancer doctors seem to think the same thing and other experts so just because they didn’t think back 50 years ago it was dangerous then don’t just presume it’s fine.

And also, yes it does cause headaches from the electromagnetic waves as the brain has brain waves and they can be interferaed with and that is what one of the problems is. Good harmonious brain waves help you stay calm and sleep too but radiation makes them go haywire like static on a TV. It is worse for some then for others. I know people who get sick if they stay close to a phone tower for more than a few minutes.

        BetterSafe said:

Directed at Gordon: You act like you’re some kind of authority on this and we’re supposed to listen to you because everyone in the past was okay right?

Do you stop to consider that the signals from today are much different.

Electronics get more powerful every day and the signals pulse faster and carry much more and you can honestly compare it to signals from old radar in the 30s? It is not the same. Today the bandwidth is very high and the power high too.

I am not even sure why I am responding to this, but here goes:

You clearly did not read what I said. The issue of RF safety is not new and it has been consistant all along. The first time anyone was really in danger from RF was in the 30’s and some sailors in the Navy (can’t remember if it was US or British) were injured by operating radar on battle ships and so on. This radar was one of the first applications of concentrated beams of high power radio waves at high frequencies.

Hence, this lead to the first standards for safety. The navy studied the issue and came up with some guidelines based on tissue absorption and dissipation of heat.

three quarters of a century later nobody has shown these standards to be false and today standards are even more conservative. But the effects are thermal and ONLY AT HIGH LEVELS.

By the way, there is nothing different about today’s radio signals that somehow make them worse. They contain more bandwidth and information transmitted, but how does that change anything?

All of which you have to live long enough to contract. Not easy in the United States of say, a century ago, when the leading cause of death was infectious disease and the life expectancy was 47 years for females and 46 for males.

…autism…

Here’s a game for you. Study the DSM IV-TR definition of autism. Go through your High School yearbook and take a shot every time you come across someone who you’d call autistic. (Then start over with the students.)

…new kinds of flu…

Pssst. Influenza viruses constantly mutate. That’s why you need a flu shot every year.

and also bees are dying,

They do that sometimes. Fortunately, humans may have arrived at a solution to Gaia’s folly.

frogs are dying.

Or not.

The earth is telling us something!

Yes. It’s whispering to you, in dulcet tones… “Go stick your face in a honey badger hole… Go stick your face in a honey badger hole…”

        DV82XL said:

I wonder how many of the morons that fear RF radiation, routinely barbecued themselves into having a ‘nice healthy tan’ at the beach?

But that radiation is OK because it’s “natural”

It looks like a broken link at first but click on “full size” and it’ll show up.

I don’t know about that one, but the XKCD version of the EM spectrum has a slice labeled “cell phone cancer waves”: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/electromagnetic_spectrum_small.png

WTF?!?