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		<title>By: Depleted Cranium &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Happy Birthday Dick!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Depleted Cranium &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Happy Birthday Dick!</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s because Dick Smith went out of his way and beyond any call of duty to donate money to buy.... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BMS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;22324&quot;]And after you died because you took a useless scam &quot;cure&quot; would your family consult a psychic to see how you were doing?[/quote]

I&#039;m willing to bet his grandmother would.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/aussies-fight-back-against-anti-vaccine-nonsense/#comment-22324"><b>ddpalmer said:</b></a></p>
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And after you died because you took a useless scam &#8220;cure&#8221; would your family consult a psychic to see how you were doing?</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m willing to bet his grandmother would.</p>
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		<title>By: ddpalmer</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;22317&quot;]If I were to fall ill I would consult a homoeopath. .[/quote]

And after you died because you took a useless scam &quot;cure&quot; would your family consult a psychic to see how you were doing?</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/aussies-fight-back-against-anti-vaccine-nonsense/#comment-22317"><b>Erwin Alber said:</b></a></p>
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If I were to fall ill I would consult a homoeopath. .</p>
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<p>And after you died because you took a useless scam &#8220;cure&#8221; would your family consult a psychic to see how you were doing?</p>
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		<title>By: DV82XL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DV82XL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;22317&quot;] If I were to fall ill I would consult a homoeopath...[/quote]

Why am I not surprised?</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/aussies-fight-back-against-anti-vaccine-nonsense/#comment-22317"><b>Erwin Alber said:</b></a></p>
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 If I were to fall ill I would consult a homoeopath&#8230;</p>
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<p>Why am I not surprised?</p>
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		<title>By: ddpalmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>ddpalmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;22315&quot;]I&#039;ve posted your Depleted Cranium link on my facebook profile and got this response from a grandmother which I thought would be good to share, to show you that the world can be looked at from more than just one viewpoint:

&quot;Two of my grandchildren almost died from vaccines, so they can take their phony science and shove it where the sun don&#039;t shine. I know the truth because I have witnessed the truth. Better to die from a disease that can be properly diagnosed than to be put through the hell that my family has suffered because of these lying terrorists. One child dies from a disease, thousands die or are disabled for life from vaccines. The reason these Australian terrorists have to make fun of someone&#039;s looks is because they have no evidence to support their claims that vaccines are safe.&quot;

I can&#039;t resist adding &quot;...and because they suffer from depleted craniums.&quot;[/quote]

Oh a random grandmother from facebook gives anecdotal evidence with no background or proof agrees with you. Well why didn&#039;t you say so. That changes the whole situation.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/aussies-fight-back-against-anti-vaccine-nonsense/#comment-22315"><b>Erwin Alber said:</b></a></p>
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I&#8217;ve posted your Depleted Cranium link on my facebook profile and got this response from a grandmother which I thought would be good to share, to show you that the world can be looked at from more than just one viewpoint:</p>
<p>&#8220;Two of my grandchildren almost died from vaccines, so they can take their phony science and shove it where the sun don&#8217;t shine. I know the truth because I have witnessed the truth. Better to die from a disease that can be properly diagnosed than to be put through the hell that my family has suffered because of these lying terrorists. One child dies from a disease, thousands die or are disabled for life from vaccines. The reason these Australian terrorists have to make fun of someone&#8217;s looks is because they have no evidence to support their claims that vaccines are safe.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t resist adding &#8220;&#8230;and because they suffer from depleted craniums.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Oh a random grandmother from facebook gives anecdotal evidence with no background or proof agrees with you. Well why didn&#8217;t you say so. That changes the whole situation.</p>
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		<title>By: ddpalmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>ddpalmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didn&#039;t you post Jock Doubleday&#039;s offer in full? It is not as simple as you have presented. A few of the other parts of the offer requires the person accepting the challenge to take a physical and mental examination and release those exam results to Mr. Doubleday with no requirement for those records to be kept confidential. There is also a require for 6 separate written tests prepared by Mr Doubleday. Along with all the other conditions he places on the offer he can easily disqualify anybody who applies to take the challenge. You think that may be intentional so he can claim that no one will accept his challenge when he knows he will never really let anybody even try?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t you post Jock Doubleday&#8217;s offer in full? It is not as simple as you have presented. A few of the other parts of the offer requires the person accepting the challenge to take a physical and mental examination and release those exam results to Mr. Doubleday with no requirement for those records to be kept confidential. There is also a require for 6 separate written tests prepared by Mr Doubleday. Along with all the other conditions he places on the offer he can easily disqualify anybody who applies to take the challenge. You think that may be intentional so he can claim that no one will accept his challenge when he knows he will never really let anybody even try?</p>
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		<title>By: Erwin Alber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erwin Alber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;22280&quot;]The only one here that is being obstreperously stupid here is you. You haven&#039;t brought one thing to the discussion except your conviction that you are right, and everyone else is wrong. What constantly amuses me about your type, is that they somehow assume that we have not considered these matters before they showed up to set the record straight.

Well guess what moron, we have been over this time and time again, and not one of you idiots has ever brought one scrap of evidence to support your contentions. Never. Like them you lack the education and the intelligence to evaluate the information available or even to understand it. You will never have the respect of people like us because you are pathetically and transparently over your head in these matters and you can&#039;t see it. You are making a first-class fool of yourself, and it hasn&#039;t yet sunk in that we are only responding to you for our own cruel amusement; you&#039;re a laughingstock.

But what the biggest howl is though, is the day you or a loved one really falls sick, or is in serious need of medical attention, you will come crawling to people like us, begging for help.  And I am satisfied knowing that eventually that time is coming, and deep down you know it too, deny it as you will.[/quote]

Oh dear. Let me explain my way of looking at things: 

If my car plays up I take it to a car mechanic to get fixed, if I can&#039;t sort the problem. If I have a tooth ache I go to the dentist. If I break a leg I&#039;ll get a doctor to set the fracture and to put it in a cast. If I were to get involved in a car accident i would hope that a surgeon will sort me out. If I were to fall ill I would consult a homoeopath. So, please note that I am not averse to consulting a doctor should I need a doctor&#039;s services ad that I&#039;m not saying that doctors are bad people; they just happen to be brainwashed into believing that injecting babies and children with poisons immunises them. 

I will consequently not let anyone blackmail me into taking some crap vaccine by means of fearmongering. In fact, I won&#039;t have any more vaccine - ever - even if I was offered a million dollars. Speaking of which, have you come across Jock Doubleday&#039;s offer? 

JOCK DOUBLEDAY&#039;S VACCINE OFFER 

$250,000 

as of March 1, 2010 

Jock Doubleday, director of the California 501(c)3 nonprofit corporation Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc., hereby offers $250,000.00 to the first medical doctor, pharmaceutical company CEO, or ACIP member who publicly drinks a mixture of standard vaccine addit...ive ingredients in the same amount as a six-year-old child is recommended to receive under the year-2005 guidelines of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. 

http://www.spontaneouscreation.org/SC/VaccineOffer.htm

This offer started at a much lower figure and was gradually increased to the above amount, yet there have been no takers! The psychopaths who advocate vaccines say it&#039;s ok to inject babies with their crap, yet they won&#039;t go near the stuff themselves, the f*^%@ng cowards. Why is Dr Paul Offit not fronting up? He&#039;s the clown who said that it was ok to inject a child with 10000 (yes, ten thousand) vaccines.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/aussies-fight-back-against-anti-vaccine-nonsense/#comment-22280"><b>DV82XL said:</b></a></p>
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The only one here that is being obstreperously stupid here is you. You haven&#8217;t brought one thing to the discussion except your conviction that you are right, and everyone else is wrong. What constantly amuses me about your type, is that they somehow assume that we have not considered these matters before they showed up to set the record straight.</p>
<p>Well guess what moron, we have been over this time and time again, and not one of you idiots has ever brought one scrap of evidence to support your contentions. Never. Like them you lack the education and the intelligence to evaluate the information available or even to understand it. You will never have the respect of people like us because you are pathetically and transparently over your head in these matters and you can&#8217;t see it. You are making a first-class fool of yourself, and it hasn&#8217;t yet sunk in that we are only responding to you for our own cruel amusement; you&#8217;re a laughingstock.</p>
<p>But what the biggest howl is though, is the day you or a loved one really falls sick, or is in serious need of medical attention, you will come crawling to people like us, begging for help.  And I am satisfied knowing that eventually that time is coming, and deep down you know it too, deny it as you will.</p>
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<p>Oh dear. Let me explain my way of looking at things: </p>
<p>If my car plays up I take it to a car mechanic to get fixed, if I can&#8217;t sort the problem. If I have a tooth ache I go to the dentist. If I break a leg I&#8217;ll get a doctor to set the fracture and to put it in a cast. If I were to get involved in a car accident i would hope that a surgeon will sort me out. If I were to fall ill I would consult a homoeopath. So, please note that I am not averse to consulting a doctor should I need a doctor&#8217;s services ad that I&#8217;m not saying that doctors are bad people; they just happen to be brainwashed into believing that injecting babies and children with poisons immunises them. </p>
<p>I will consequently not let anyone blackmail me into taking some crap vaccine by means of fearmongering. In fact, I won&#8217;t have any more vaccine &#8211; ever &#8211; even if I was offered a million dollars. Speaking of which, have you come across Jock Doubleday&#8217;s offer? </p>
<p>JOCK DOUBLEDAY&#8217;S VACCINE OFFER </p>
<p>$250,000 </p>
<p>as of March 1, 2010 </p>
<p>Jock Doubleday, director of the California 501(c)3 nonprofit corporation Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc., hereby offers $250,000.00 to the first medical doctor, pharmaceutical company CEO, or ACIP member who publicly drinks a mixture of standard vaccine addit&#8230;ive ingredients in the same amount as a six-year-old child is recommended to receive under the year-2005 guidelines of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.spontaneouscreation.org/SC/VaccineOffer.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.spontaneouscreation.org/SC/VaccineOffer.htm</a></p>
<p>This offer started at a much lower figure and was gradually increased to the above amount, yet there have been no takers! The psychopaths who advocate vaccines say it&#8217;s ok to inject babies with their crap, yet they won&#8217;t go near the stuff themselves, the f*^%@ng cowards. Why is Dr Paul Offit not fronting up? He&#8217;s the clown who said that it was ok to inject a child with 10000 (yes, ten thousand) vaccines.</p>
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		<title>By: Erwin Alber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erwin Alber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve posted your Depleted Cranium link on my facebook profile and got this response from a grandmother which I thought would be good to share, to show you that the world can be looked at from more than just one viewpoint: 

&quot;Two of my grandchildren almost died from vaccines, so they can take their phony science and shove it where the sun don&#039;t shine. I know the truth because I have witnessed the truth. Better to die from a disease that can be properly diagnosed than to be put through the hell that my family has suffered because of these lying terrorists. One child dies from a disease, thousands die or are disabled for life from vaccines. The reason these Australian terrorists have to make fun of someone&#039;s looks is because they have no evidence to support their claims that vaccines are safe.&quot;

I can&#039;t resist adding &quot;...and because they suffer from depleted craniums.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve posted your Depleted Cranium link on my facebook profile and got this response from a grandmother which I thought would be good to share, to show you that the world can be looked at from more than just one viewpoint: </p>
<p>&#8220;Two of my grandchildren almost died from vaccines, so they can take their phony science and shove it where the sun don&#8217;t shine. I know the truth because I have witnessed the truth. Better to die from a disease that can be properly diagnosed than to be put through the hell that my family has suffered because of these lying terrorists. One child dies from a disease, thousands die or are disabled for life from vaccines. The reason these Australian terrorists have to make fun of someone&#8217;s looks is because they have no evidence to support their claims that vaccines are safe.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t resist adding &#8220;&#8230;and because they suffer from depleted craniums.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DV82XL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DV82XL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;22277&quot;] I just get a bit frustrated when people are so thick they can&#039;t see the obvious.  I was kind of hoping that e.g. the SARS swindle, the bird flu swindle and the recent swine flu and swine flu vaccine swindles would have opened people&#039;s eyes to the fact that this whole  vaccine business is an organized criminal enterprise, but to judge from the comments on this site it seems that some people still have their heads stuck up their back passage.[/quote]

The only one here that is being obstreperously stupid here is you. You haven&#039;t brought one thing to the discussion except your conviction that you are right, and everyone else is wrong. What constantly amuses me about your type, is that they somehow assume that we have not considered these matters before they showed up to set the record straight. 

Well guess what moron, we have been over this time and time again, and not one of you idiots has ever brought one scrap of evidence to support your contentions. Never. Like them you lack the education and the intelligence to evaluate the information available or even to understand it. You will never have the respect of people like us because you are pathetically and transparently over your head in these matters and you can&#039;t see it. You are making a first-class fool of yourself, and it hasn&#039;t yet sunk in that we are only responding to you for our own cruel amusement; you&#039;re a laughingstock.

But what the biggest howl is though, is the day you or a loved one really falls sick, or is in serious need of medical attention, you will come crawling to people like us, begging for help.  And I am satisfied knowing that eventually that time is coming, and deep down you know it too, deny it as you will.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/aussies-fight-back-against-anti-vaccine-nonsense/#comment-22277"><b>Erwin Alber said:</b></a></p>
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 I just get a bit frustrated when people are so thick they can&#8217;t see the obvious.  I was kind of hoping that e.g. the SARS swindle, the bird flu swindle and the recent swine flu and swine flu vaccine swindles would have opened people&#8217;s eyes to the fact that this whole  vaccine business is an organized criminal enterprise, but to judge from the comments on this site it seems that some people still have their heads stuck up their back passage.</p>
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<p>The only one here that is being obstreperously stupid here is you. You haven&#8217;t brought one thing to the discussion except your conviction that you are right, and everyone else is wrong. What constantly amuses me about your type, is that they somehow assume that we have not considered these matters before they showed up to set the record straight. </p>
<p>Well guess what moron, we have been over this time and time again, and not one of you idiots has ever brought one scrap of evidence to support your contentions. Never. Like them you lack the education and the intelligence to evaluate the information available or even to understand it. You will never have the respect of people like us because you are pathetically and transparently over your head in these matters and you can&#8217;t see it. You are making a first-class fool of yourself, and it hasn&#8217;t yet sunk in that we are only responding to you for our own cruel amusement; you&#8217;re a laughingstock.</p>
<p>But what the biggest howl is though, is the day you or a loved one really falls sick, or is in serious need of medical attention, you will come crawling to people like us, begging for help.  And I am satisfied knowing that eventually that time is coming, and deep down you know it too, deny it as you will.</p>
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		<title>By: Erwin Alber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erwin Alber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;22262&quot;]&quot;desirable&quot;?

Right.... they do help provide an immunity as long as they don&#039;t also kill the child or leave them crippled, deaf, disfigured etc.

That&#039;s the thing about infections.  They&#039;re not harmless.  They&#039;re pathogenic.  They cause harm.  They sometimes kill.

Except they don&#039;t and it doesn&#039;t change no matter how many times you say so.

The fact that the authorities say something does not automatically make it right.

It does not automatically make it wrong either.

These notions were always dispelled by presentation of evidence.  That seems to be what you don&#039;t understand.

Dr. Wakefield has been rooted out as being a complete fraud.  He violated ethics rules numerous times and he made up his data.

His study was audited and found to be bogus.

Why is it so hard for you to understand that?

If MMR vaccine did really cause autism  and if he had proven this he would have been a hero and his discovery would have been confirmed by other researchers.

You really think that medicines don&#039;t occasionally get found to be harmful?

It does happen.

The modern system of testing and approval catches most of them but on rare occasions drugs are pulled because of side effects.  Thalidomide was found to cause birth defects in the 1960&#039;s.

You know what these have that&#039;s different thought?

There&#039;s real, provable evidence.

That&#039;s what matters!

Except it turned out that this &quot;myth&quot; was true.  It&#039;s because cowpox is closely related to small pox but rarely as severe.

It was confirmed by several researchers to work.  The antigens are nearly identical, and that is what matters.

It was in some ways one of the turning points of medicine.

The use of cowpox is completely obsolete, though.

It crude by later standards.  The first step toward modern vaccines, perhaps, but still just the earliest step.

They didn&#039;t even understand why it worked at the time.

It founded the basic idea of vaccines - to provide for an immunity while not causing the dangers of the infection itself.[/quote]
[quote comment=&quot;22262&quot;]&quot;desirable&quot;?

You say that the smallpox vaccine was crude by later standards. The truth is that little has changed. Jenner&#039;s vaccines was bottled toxic filth, and this is still the case today. At least Jenner genuinely wanted to help prevent disease, while modern vaccines, which are known to be useless and dangerous, are still sold to a largely unsuspecting public regardless, with the deliberate intent to promote ill-health and disorders, including neurological impairment (autism, ADHD, learning and behaviour problems) and infertility. 

It never ceases to amaze me that fully grown, supposedly intelligent and well-educated people, including many doctors believe in nonsense such as the claim that injecting toxic filth into babies and children will protect them against disease. 

&quot;Dr. Wakefield has been rooted out as being a complete fraud.  He violated ethics rules numerous times and he made up his data.&quot; 

If true, he&#039;s in good company, because Louis Pasteur is known to have fudged the results of his experiments to make them fit HIS theories. The persecution of Wakefield is IMO a modern day witchhunt. Idiot if not criminal doctors poison, cripple and sometimes kill babies and children with vaccines year in and year out without being held accountable, yet Dr Wakefield is singled out and nailed to the proverbial barn door so-to-speak - obviously because he dared to voice his fears that the MMR vaccine may be responsible for autism, thus threatening medical and drug company profits. This is the real reason why he is being hounded. Threatening drug company profits is obviously considered a serious crime, while crippling or killing babies and children with toxic injections is evidently not. What a twisted world we live in!  

&quot;His study was audited and found to be bogus.&quot; 

Audited by whom? Useful fools and willing idiots working for this organised criminal vaccination enterprise?!  

&quot;If MMR vaccine did really cause autism  and if he had proven this he would have been a hero and his discovery would have been confirmed by other researchers.&quot;

You are dreaming. Researchers who have found vaccines to be harmful are often vilified, fired or transferred. 

Bernice Eddy, USA; Dr Anthony Morris PhD, USA; Dr Herbert Shelton Dr A Kalokerinos MD, Australia; Dr G Lanctot MD, Canada, Dr med G Buchwald, Germany and others.    

&quot;You really think that medicines don&#039;t occasionally get found to be harmful?

It does happen.

The modern system of testing and approval catches most of them but on rare occasions drugs are pulled because of side effects.  Thalidomide was found to cause birth defects in the 1960&#039;s.

You know what these have that&#039;s different thought?

There&#039;s real, provable evidence.

That&#039;s what matters!&quot;

It took hundreds if not thousands of children to be born with deformed or absent limbs before Thalidomide was pulled from the market, and some 55000 people to die from Vioxx. 

Who knows how many more children will have to suffer illness, disability or death before vaccination is finally abolished. It may not happen in my lifetime, but I will do everything I can to inform parents, to enable them to make an informed choice (of non-consent).  

&quot;The smallpox vaccination &quot;myth&quot; was true.  It&#039;s because cowpox is closely related to small pox but rarely as severe.

It was confirmed by several researchers to work.  The antigens are nearly identical, and that is what matters.&quot;

According to Dr Med G Buchwald, Germany, when the supposed vaccinia virus was finally examined, it turned out that it was neither a smallpox nor a cowpox virus, but a totally new virus entity which had never existed in nature. You know how critical it is to match flu vaccine viruses with circulating viruses in order to &quot;immunise&quot; against the flu. so to expect some hybrid virus to protect against smallpox is just too stupid for words. Smallpox vaccination was a complete failure, apart fro successfully crippling and killing countless children (and adults).    

The Horrors of Vaccination Exposed 1920 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20891709/Horrors-of-Vaccination-Exposed-1920-by-Chaz-M-Higgins
It was in some ways one of the turning points of medicine.

&quot;The use of cowpox is completely obsolete, though.&quot;

The use of all vaccines is obsolete, but that doesn&#039;t stop these criminals from pushing them onto a trusting (not to say gullible) public. 

&quot;It crude by later standards.  The first step toward modern vaccines, perhaps, but still just the earliest step.&quot;

There is nothing refined about modern vaccines. They contain toxic metals and other toxic chemicals, bits of chick embryos, monkey kidneys and aborted human foetuses. Would you eat this stuff in a soup? I dare say not. So what makes it ok to inject this filth into babies? I&#039;s be stupid to wait for a sensible answer from you, because there obviously isn&#039;t one.  

&quot;They didn&#039;t even understand why it worked at the time.&quot;

No, they didn&#039;t, but then, because it didn&#039;t work, there was really nothing to understand, except that it was a fraud.   

&quot;It founded the basic idea of vaccines - to provide for an immunity while not causing the dangers of the infection itself.[/quote]&quot;

Yes, it provided the foundation for this global fraudulent multi-billion dollar money-making racket.</description>
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&#8220;desirable&#8221;?</p>
<p>Right&#8230;. they do help provide an immunity as long as they don&#8217;t also kill the child or leave them crippled, deaf, disfigured etc.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the thing about infections.  They&#8217;re not harmless.  They&#8217;re pathogenic.  They cause harm.  They sometimes kill.</p>
<p>Except they don&#8217;t and it doesn&#8217;t change no matter how many times you say so.</p>
<p>The fact that the authorities say something does not automatically make it right.</p>
<p>It does not automatically make it wrong either.</p>
<p>These notions were always dispelled by presentation of evidence.  That seems to be what you don&#8217;t understand.</p>
<p>Dr. Wakefield has been rooted out as being a complete fraud.  He violated ethics rules numerous times and he made up his data.</p>
<p>His study was audited and found to be bogus.</p>
<p>Why is it so hard for you to understand that?</p>
<p>If MMR vaccine did really cause autism  and if he had proven this he would have been a hero and his discovery would have been confirmed by other researchers.</p>
<p>You really think that medicines don&#8217;t occasionally get found to be harmful?</p>
<p>It does happen.</p>
<p>The modern system of testing and approval catches most of them but on rare occasions drugs are pulled because of side effects.  Thalidomide was found to cause birth defects in the 1960&#8217;s.</p>
<p>You know what these have that&#8217;s different thought?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s real, provable evidence.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what matters!</p>
<p>Except it turned out that this &#8220;myth&#8221; was true.  It&#8217;s because cowpox is closely related to small pox but rarely as severe.</p>
<p>It was confirmed by several researchers to work.  The antigens are nearly identical, and that is what matters.</p>
<p>It was in some ways one of the turning points of medicine.</p>
<p>The use of cowpox is completely obsolete, though.</p>
<p>It crude by later standards.  The first step toward modern vaccines, perhaps, but still just the earliest step.</p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t even understand why it worked at the time.</p>
<p>It founded the basic idea of vaccines &#8211; to provide for an immunity while not causing the dangers of the infection itself.</p>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/aussies-fight-back-against-anti-vaccine-nonsense/#comment-22262"><b>Q said:</b></a></p>
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&#8220;desirable&#8221;?</p>
<p>You say that the smallpox vaccine was crude by later standards. The truth is that little has changed. Jenner&#8217;s vaccines was bottled toxic filth, and this is still the case today. At least Jenner genuinely wanted to help prevent disease, while modern vaccines, which are known to be useless and dangerous, are still sold to a largely unsuspecting public regardless, with the deliberate intent to promote ill-health and disorders, including neurological impairment (autism, ADHD, learning and behaviour problems) and infertility. </p>
<p>It never ceases to amaze me that fully grown, supposedly intelligent and well-educated people, including many doctors believe in nonsense such as the claim that injecting toxic filth into babies and children will protect them against disease. </p>
<p>&#8220;Dr. Wakefield has been rooted out as being a complete fraud.  He violated ethics rules numerous times and he made up his data.&#8221; </p>
<p>If true, he&#8217;s in good company, because Louis Pasteur is known to have fudged the results of his experiments to make them fit HIS theories. The persecution of Wakefield is IMO a modern day witchhunt. Idiot if not criminal doctors poison, cripple and sometimes kill babies and children with vaccines year in and year out without being held accountable, yet Dr Wakefield is singled out and nailed to the proverbial barn door so-to-speak &#8211; obviously because he dared to voice his fears that the MMR vaccine may be responsible for autism, thus threatening medical and drug company profits. This is the real reason why he is being hounded. Threatening drug company profits is obviously considered a serious crime, while crippling or killing babies and children with toxic injections is evidently not. What a twisted world we live in!  </p>
<p>&#8220;His study was audited and found to be bogus.&#8221; </p>
<p>Audited by whom? Useful fools and willing idiots working for this organised criminal vaccination enterprise?!  </p>
<p>&#8220;If MMR vaccine did really cause autism  and if he had proven this he would have been a hero and his discovery would have been confirmed by other researchers.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are dreaming. Researchers who have found vaccines to be harmful are often vilified, fired or transferred. </p>
<p>Bernice Eddy, USA; Dr Anthony Morris PhD, USA; Dr Herbert Shelton Dr A Kalokerinos MD, Australia; Dr G Lanctot MD, Canada, Dr med G Buchwald, Germany and others.    </p>
<p>&#8220;You really think that medicines don&#8217;t occasionally get found to be harmful?</p>
<p>It does happen.</p>
<p>The modern system of testing and approval catches most of them but on rare occasions drugs are pulled because of side effects.  Thalidomide was found to cause birth defects in the 1960&#8217;s.</p>
<p>You know what these have that&#8217;s different thought?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s real, provable evidence.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what matters!&#8221;</p>
<p>It took hundreds if not thousands of children to be born with deformed or absent limbs before Thalidomide was pulled from the market, and some 55000 people to die from Vioxx. </p>
<p>Who knows how many more children will have to suffer illness, disability or death before vaccination is finally abolished. It may not happen in my lifetime, but I will do everything I can to inform parents, to enable them to make an informed choice (of non-consent).  </p>
<p>&#8220;The smallpox vaccination &#8220;myth&#8221; was true.  It&#8217;s because cowpox is closely related to small pox but rarely as severe.</p>
<p>It was confirmed by several researchers to work.  The antigens are nearly identical, and that is what matters.&#8221;</p>
<p>According to Dr Med G Buchwald, Germany, when the supposed vaccinia virus was finally examined, it turned out that it was neither a smallpox nor a cowpox virus, but a totally new virus entity which had never existed in nature. You know how critical it is to match flu vaccine viruses with circulating viruses in order to &#8220;immunise&#8221; against the flu. so to expect some hybrid virus to protect against smallpox is just too stupid for words. Smallpox vaccination was a complete failure, apart fro successfully crippling and killing countless children (and adults).    </p>
<p>The Horrors of Vaccination Exposed 1920 </p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/20891709/Horrors-of-Vaccination-Exposed-1920-by-Chaz-M-Higgins" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/20891709/Horrors-of-Vaccination-Exposed-1920-by-Chaz-M-Higgins</a><br />
It was in some ways one of the turning points of medicine.</p>
<p>&#8220;The use of cowpox is completely obsolete, though.&#8221;</p>
<p>The use of all vaccines is obsolete, but that doesn&#8217;t stop these criminals from pushing them onto a trusting (not to say gullible) public. </p>
<p>&#8220;It crude by later standards.  The first step toward modern vaccines, perhaps, but still just the earliest step.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is nothing refined about modern vaccines. They contain toxic metals and other toxic chemicals, bits of chick embryos, monkey kidneys and aborted human foetuses. Would you eat this stuff in a soup? I dare say not. So what makes it ok to inject this filth into babies? I&#8217;s be stupid to wait for a sensible answer from you, because there obviously isn&#8217;t one.  </p>
<p>&#8220;They didn&#8217;t even understand why it worked at the time.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, they didn&#8217;t, but then, because it didn&#8217;t work, there was really nothing to understand, except that it was a fraud.   </p>
<p>&#8220;It founded the basic idea of vaccines &#8211; to provide for an immunity while not causing the dangers of the infection itself.</p>
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<p>Yes, it provided the foundation for this global fraudulent multi-billion dollar money-making racket.</p>
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