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	<title>Comments on: Arthur Firstenberg: The Jackass In the Foil Hat</title>
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		<title>By: Veridicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veridicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This wretched excuse of a human is exemplary of what is wrong with our court system.  One misguided person can bring mischief to undeserving people and cost them thousands of dollars in legal bills just because he craves notoriety of who knows what?  Why is it that those of us who chose to work for a living must pay for this person’s life of leisure?  If the government is serious (of course they aren’t) about reducing expenses, they should immediately review and end his Social Security payments.  We taxpayers are enabling him to do nothing but harm others through the misuse of our court system!  I hope the case is thrown out and his neighbor can successfully sue him and obtain a lien on his home.  The guy complains of micro-watts of radiated power while television stations and FM broadcast stations saturate him with thousands of times more energy.  At the very least, the court should require him to submit to unbiased testing at HIS expense to prove any alleged harm by his innocent neighbor.  Once these claims are demonstrated to be false, he should pay a sizable court cost fee and reimburse his neighbor for expenses caused by his making unnecessary trouble.  Then he should take what federally provided money he has left and move to Gitmo.  I hear there are some rooms available there, and he should adapt nicely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This wretched excuse of a human is exemplary of what is wrong with our court system.  One misguided person can bring mischief to undeserving people and cost them thousands of dollars in legal bills just because he craves notoriety of who knows what?  Why is it that those of us who chose to work for a living must pay for this person’s life of leisure?  If the government is serious (of course they aren’t) about reducing expenses, they should immediately review and end his Social Security payments.  We taxpayers are enabling him to do nothing but harm others through the misuse of our court system!  I hope the case is thrown out and his neighbor can successfully sue him and obtain a lien on his home.  The guy complains of micro-watts of radiated power while television stations and FM broadcast stations saturate him with thousands of times more energy.  At the very least, the court should require him to submit to unbiased testing at HIS expense to prove any alleged harm by his innocent neighbor.  Once these claims are demonstrated to be false, he should pay a sizable court cost fee and reimburse his neighbor for expenses caused by his making unnecessary trouble.  Then he should take what federally provided money he has left and move to Gitmo.  I hear there are some rooms available there, and he should adapt nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
		<link>http://depletedcranium.com/arthur-firstenberg-the-jackass-in-the-foil-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-18932</link>
		<dc:creator>drbuzz0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlo was part of the &quot;Wireless Technology Research&quot; program, which was not the equivalent of being the &quot;head of research for the industry&quot; or anything like that.   It was a 28 million dollar program, over the course of 6 years.   In terms of major science initiatives, even private ones, that&#039;s hardly a huge program.   It was one of the programs to review scientific data that an industry group funded.

Anyway, he did some very inappropriate things during the program.  For example, he made some very strong statements and talked with the media frequently.  One thing he said:

&quot;The scientific and medical information is in a gray area. We can&#039;t say clearly that these things are safe. We have a hint that they are dangerous. [But] we don&#039;t know how dangerous. What we do know is that in the four different epidemiologic studies we&#039;ve done, there are hints of health risks.&quot;

That kind of a statement is not appropriate for any researcher to make during the course of any study or project.   You don&#039;t blow your mouth off to the media or give sneak peaks or hints at the data.   There are sometimes prelim reports, but the study should be published in a journal, in its entirety before you jump the gun on conclusions.

Honestly, I don&#039;t know how the hell he managed to worm his way into that job to begin with.   All I can think is he BS&#039;ed his way into it with a padded resume or he had some connections who got him the job.  His experience before that was limited to pulling a similar stunt with silicone breast implants.    (yeah, we all know how good the science that destroyed Dow Corning and many retirements was.   It&#039;s probably the best example of panic over non-existent dangers going wild in recent history).

He&#039;s presented some papers on really fringe stuff.  In addition to being part of the whole idea that &quot;information carrying&quot; radio waves are the problem, he started the idea that radio waves cause cells to absorb and fail to excrete &#039;toxins&#039; and &#039;heavy metals&#039;   He claims a link to audism.   Not surprisingly, he&#039;s forged some connections with the anti-vaccine assclowns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlo was part of the &#8220;Wireless Technology Research&#8221; program, which was not the equivalent of being the &#8220;head of research for the industry&#8221; or anything like that.   It was a 28 million dollar program, over the course of 6 years.   In terms of major science initiatives, even private ones, that&#8217;s hardly a huge program.   It was one of the programs to review scientific data that an industry group funded.</p>
<p>Anyway, he did some very inappropriate things during the program.  For example, he made some very strong statements and talked with the media frequently.  One thing he said:</p>
<p>&#8220;The scientific and medical information is in a gray area. We can&#8217;t say clearly that these things are safe. We have a hint that they are dangerous. [But] we don&#8217;t know how dangerous. What we do know is that in the four different epidemiologic studies we&#8217;ve done, there are hints of health risks.&#8221;</p>
<p>That kind of a statement is not appropriate for any researcher to make during the course of any study or project.   You don&#8217;t blow your mouth off to the media or give sneak peaks or hints at the data.   There are sometimes prelim reports, but the study should be published in a journal, in its entirety before you jump the gun on conclusions.</p>
<p>Honestly, I don&#8217;t know how the hell he managed to worm his way into that job to begin with.   All I can think is he BS&#8217;ed his way into it with a padded resume or he had some connections who got him the job.  His experience before that was limited to pulling a similar stunt with silicone breast implants.    (yeah, we all know how good the science that destroyed Dow Corning and many retirements was.   It&#8217;s probably the best example of panic over non-existent dangers going wild in recent history).</p>
<p>He&#8217;s presented some papers on really fringe stuff.  In addition to being part of the whole idea that &#8220;information carrying&#8221; radio waves are the problem, he started the idea that radio waves cause cells to absorb and fail to excrete &#8216;toxins&#8217; and &#8216;heavy metals&#8217;   He claims a link to audism.   Not surprisingly, he&#8217;s forged some connections with the anti-vaccine assclowns.</p>
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		<title>By: DV82XL</title>
		<link>http://depletedcranium.com/arthur-firstenberg-the-jackass-in-the-foil-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-18930</link>
		<dc:creator>DV82XL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlo is the founder and chairman of an organization called the Science and Public Policy Institute (not to be confused with the conservative think-tank also named the Science and Public Policy Institute) and its sub-project, the Safe Wireless Initiative, which is associated with electrosensitivity.

He is currently working with these affiliated organizations and he also established a Help for Wireless Victims network, whereby people who claim to suffer from &quot;ElectroHyperSensitivity Syndrome (EHS)&quot; and &quot;Membrane Sensitivity Syndrome (MSS)&quot; will have access to health care via a network of quacks. He is also developing an educational arm of SPPI and SWI, called EMR University, to train said quacks and through, the Safe Wireless Initiative is accumulating an enormous database of people who claim to have symptoms and/or illnesses related to or caused directly by EMR exposure.

In other words he saw an opportunity to make a fortune off the gullibility of the stupid and went for it. 

How many times do we have to say this: without double-blind testing in a proper cohort study with a significant result forthcoming, this is all dren. All of these proponents of EMF/RF exposure illness could shut me, and every other skeptic up in a split second with good results from a study like this... So why don&#039;t they do it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlo is the founder and chairman of an organization called the Science and Public Policy Institute (not to be confused with the conservative think-tank also named the Science and Public Policy Institute) and its sub-project, the Safe Wireless Initiative, which is associated with electrosensitivity.</p>
<p>He is currently working with these affiliated organizations and he also established a Help for Wireless Victims network, whereby people who claim to suffer from &#8220;ElectroHyperSensitivity Syndrome (EHS)&#8221; and &#8220;Membrane Sensitivity Syndrome (MSS)&#8221; will have access to health care via a network of quacks. He is also developing an educational arm of SPPI and SWI, called EMR University, to train said quacks and through, the Safe Wireless Initiative is accumulating an enormous database of people who claim to have symptoms and/or illnesses related to or caused directly by EMR exposure.</p>
<p>In other words he saw an opportunity to make a fortune off the gullibility of the stupid and went for it. </p>
<p>How many times do we have to say this: without double-blind testing in a proper cohort study with a significant result forthcoming, this is all dren. All of these proponents of EMF/RF exposure illness could shut me, and every other skeptic up in a split second with good results from a study like this&#8230; So why don&#8217;t they do it?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did a search on &quot;George Carlo&quot; whom the cellular phone industry hired to prove this stuff was safe.  Looks like industry didn&#039;t get the answer it wanted and fired him.  Since then they have tried to focus the research on the thermal effects of radiation, which they limited his research to when they were forced to give him his job back.

I&#039;m not about to construct my own aluminum foil deflector beanie after reading this, but it does make think twice when the industry yes-man says no, the risks are to serious to ignore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did a search on &#8220;George Carlo&#8221; whom the cellular phone industry hired to prove this stuff was safe.  Looks like industry didn&#8217;t get the answer it wanted and fired him.  Since then they have tried to focus the research on the thermal effects of radiation, which they limited his research to when they were forced to give him his job back.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not about to construct my own aluminum foil deflector beanie after reading this, but it does make think twice when the industry yes-man says no, the risks are to serious to ignore.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 06:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;14375&quot;]t. What I am getting at here, is that we all have different sensitivities, so again I will say, don&#039;t be so quick to judge because you never know when something may hit you out of the blue, and you just might regret what you said about Arthur. I hope one day that you may be able to understand or see for yourself what he is talking about. [/quote]

Lady, you have no idea what you&#039;re talking about and you have no idea who you&#039;re talking to.   The author of this site has displayed a very good understanding of the issues involved here in both the health and science aspects or lack there of in this area.   I should know too, because wireless communications has been my profession since before many here were probably born and I am very well versed in the safety issues involved in uhf and microwave systems.   

The studies all confirm what we have always known.  When I looked at an rf safety guide in the 1970;s and today they&#039;re the same.  Nothing we knew then has in any way been shown false and no new hazards have been discovered, and that&#039;s not like there are not plenty of people trying to find them!    Radio signals treat the human body like a big bag of water.   Most go through without actually transferring much energy to us and any energy they do is pretty minor and just vibrates the water molecules a tiny bit.   We don&#039;t have the resonance or tuning to pick up radio signals efficiently.

If I showed you an RF hazard meter you would be astounded at how quickly it drops from any consumer device.  I have to almost have the probe in contact with the antenna of a wifi router to get it to read anything.  I can move it a few feet away and it shows nothing.   If you want to receive at even a small distance it you need an canteen with descent tuning and gain.  Even then the signal is in microvolts and it needs to be amplified to be detected.  What does that tell you?

The whole electronegative thing is hogwash that nobody ever even heard of before around 2000.   It was invented, and it was all the rage in Europe before coming over to North America.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/arthur-firstenberg-the-jackass-in-the-foil-hat/#comment-14375"><b>Susan O. said:</b></a></p>
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t. What I am getting at here, is that we all have different sensitivities, so again I will say, don&#8217;t be so quick to judge because you never know when something may hit you out of the blue, and you just might regret what you said about Arthur. I hope one day that you may be able to understand or see for yourself what he is talking about. </p>
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<p>Lady, you have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about and you have no idea who you&#8217;re talking to.   The author of this site has displayed a very good understanding of the issues involved here in both the health and science aspects or lack there of in this area.   I should know too, because wireless communications has been my profession since before many here were probably born and I am very well versed in the safety issues involved in uhf and microwave systems.   </p>
<p>The studies all confirm what we have always known.  When I looked at an rf safety guide in the 1970;s and today they&#8217;re the same.  Nothing we knew then has in any way been shown false and no new hazards have been discovered, and that&#8217;s not like there are not plenty of people trying to find them!    Radio signals treat the human body like a big bag of water.   Most go through without actually transferring much energy to us and any energy they do is pretty minor and just vibrates the water molecules a tiny bit.   We don&#8217;t have the resonance or tuning to pick up radio signals efficiently.</p>
<p>If I showed you an RF hazard meter you would be astounded at how quickly it drops from any consumer device.  I have to almost have the probe in contact with the antenna of a wifi router to get it to read anything.  I can move it a few feet away and it shows nothing.   If you want to receive at even a small distance it you need an canteen with descent tuning and gain.  Even then the signal is in microvolts and it needs to be amplified to be detected.  What does that tell you?</p>
<p>The whole electronegative thing is hogwash that nobody ever even heard of before around 2000.   It was invented, and it was all the rage in Europe before coming over to North America.</p>
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		<title>By: ctrlaltdel</title>
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		<dc:creator>ctrlaltdel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan, I&#039;m not a mental health professional and so honestly I don&#039;t know where one draws the line between someone just being full of themselves and despirate for attention but I know that ES is a lot of bull because of all the reasons on this page and the scientific facts.   The inverse square law is one thing that basically disproves these claims and also the studies done.

I don&#039;t think that a person&#039;s state of mind is an excuse though because I believe that unless a person is so insane that they can&#039;t understand reality then they have the responsibility to be honest and get them self help.  It sounds like he prefers to have this condition he says he has than to admit that he has been living a lie. Sometimes when you live a lie long enough it starts to almost seem real.

It sounds like you and he thrive on this.  It sounds like his &#039;gentleness&#039; and everything comes from this whole thing with him being a victim and a crusader for people like him.   It sounds like the two of you have settled into your roles as being part of this thing.  

People like you though, you all really just feed into this belief every time you stand up for it.  Think!  Think!  Just use your brain and look at the facts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan, I&#8217;m not a mental health professional and so honestly I don&#8217;t know where one draws the line between someone just being full of themselves and despirate for attention but I know that ES is a lot of bull because of all the reasons on this page and the scientific facts.   The inverse square law is one thing that basically disproves these claims and also the studies done.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that a person&#8217;s state of mind is an excuse though because I believe that unless a person is so insane that they can&#8217;t understand reality then they have the responsibility to be honest and get them self help.  It sounds like he prefers to have this condition he says he has than to admit that he has been living a lie. Sometimes when you live a lie long enough it starts to almost seem real.</p>
<p>It sounds like you and he thrive on this.  It sounds like his &#8216;gentleness&#8217; and everything comes from this whole thing with him being a victim and a crusader for people like him.   It sounds like the two of you have settled into your roles as being part of this thing.  </p>
<p>People like you though, you all really just feed into this belief every time you stand up for it.  Think!  Think!  Just use your brain and look at the facts</p>
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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbuzz0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;14375&quot;]It is really a shame and a disrespect for other beings that there are so many of you that blasted Arthur for sensitivities that are no fault of his. To be so ignorant to the fact that we are all so unique that we may have allergies/sensitivites that differ from others  is quite sad. Just because the sensitivity may be rare in your world, doesn&#039;t mean that is does not exist!  Believe me, I know Arthur and lived with him for many years, so I know that what he is experiencing is not &quot;in his head.&quot; Was it frustrating? Yes, very much so. Especially when I tried to accomodate him because of his illness and I am ashamed to say that there were times that I was angry because of his sensitivities. Who are we to judge how he feels?[/quote]

Allergies are real.   I am allergic to pollen and to cat dander.   Allergies are based on the body reacting to a stimuli as if it were an invader and it triggers an immune response that can include inflammation, swelling etc.   It is entirely testable and can be documented to exist.

Electrosensitivity is entirely fictitious.  It never manifests any kind of measurable symptoms that are anything that can&#039;t be explained by psychosymatics.    Yes, there have been double-blind studies and this has been investigated.   This is actually not surprising because it supports the decades of research on RF fields and how they interact with living organisms.   There has never been a credible mechanism seen that would cause anything to happen other then some very slight warming of tissue, which I may add, is within the normal variations of body temperature anyway.


Now lets talk about &quot;accommodation.&quot;   Normally self-proclaimed electrosensatives claim to be sensitive to microwaves, RF fields and that kind of thing.   It&#039;s interesting how selective they are about it.   It&#039;s mostly the newer, more conspicuous items that get them all hot and bothered:  Wifi, cell phones and alike.   In reality these sources are tiny compared to some things that have been around for a long time.   High power UHF radios have been put on police cars since the 1950&#039;s, microwave television transmitters go back just as far, radar guns have been around for decades and so have microwave relay telephones.

Actually, you can&#039;t get away from microwave radiation.   Our bodies emit it.   Yes, that&#039;s right/   Black body incandescence means that anything that is not cooled to near absolute zero will emit a variety of electromagnetic waves.   We emit waves which range from the low-infrared to the high microwave region.  The sun produces huge amounts of microwaves.

But does this bother them?  No, just the obvious, more visible and conspicuous sources like modern technical items.

There&#039;s another important factor to consider:  The inverse square law.  It does not jive with these claims.  The inverse square law governs how radio power density is distributed.   Basically what it boils down to is this:   Close up sources have the highest density even if they are not very powerful.  The power density drops dramatically as you move away for the first few feet or so and then as you move away it becomes less and less of a drop per a given unit of distance.

As a consequence of this, if something like a wifi router did bother you, you&#039;d just have to step back a short distance to experience a very dramatic reduction in radiation.   However, the difference between standing 40 feet from it and 50 feet is negligible.

So if a person with self-proclaimed ES is being interviewed on TV complaining that they can&#039;t go within a quarter mile of a cell phone tower, then something does not jive here.   The reason?   The power density from the RF-leakage from the TV camera&#039;s oscillators is much stronger at a few feet than a cell signal is at a few hundred yards.

Yes, it seems counter-intuitive at first, but the fact is, if people actually were sensitive to RF fields then a person who is sensitive to a cell tower at a few hundred meters would probably be killed by a cell phone at two meters.   That&#039;s how it works.   Distance is critical, especially with low power localized sources.

Yet these ES guys claim that they need to be a mile away from a cell tower yet don&#039;t seem to mind being closer to comparatively smaller items.   It is totally inconsistent with the way things work.





[quote comment=&quot;14375&quot;]
 We do not know what goes on in his body. Just because you can not outwardly see something physical happening, doesn&#039;t mean that it is not taking place in his body...REMEMBER THIS!  
[/quote]
Unfortunately, the placebo effect is surprisingly strong and people can be influenced strongly by what they believe.   I don&#039;t want to diagnose the man with whatever mental issues he has, but it is likely he believes the pains are real, or possibly he partially believes it or has some kind of sub-conscious thing going on.   

When it comes to human factors that can&#039;t be measured directly, there is a way to screen out subjective interpretation.   It is known as the double-blind, placebo-controlled test.   It is done with a number of subjects who don&#039;t know if a stimuli is real or a placebo.   It has been done here.   The results are one sided and conclusive.

The WHO and some other agencies took this whole thing seriously and did some in depth reviews of the scientific data.   The conclusion that it&#039;s all in one&#039;s head is universally agreed on.

[quote comment=&quot;14375&quot;]
There have been times that flourescent lights have bothered me and the gases that they emit have made me feel ill, so I can understand that. 
[/quote]

I&#039;m inclined to think in your case that&#039;s partially or entirely a psychotic based effect, but there is some truth to the statement that flourescent lights can cause headaches.   The older ones and some that are on their last legs can flicker at a high frequency.  This produces an effect that makes the iris have difficulty adjusting to the light levels and it can lead to headaches.

They don&#039;t emit any gasses.


[quote comment=&quot;14375&quot;]
Also, I have walked into certain places(stores, old churches, moldy areas) and I have felt so weak and sick that I have had to walk out. What I am getting at here, is that we all have different sensitivities, so again I will say, don&#039;t be so quick to judge because you never know when something may hit you out of the blue, and you just might regret what you said about Arthur. 
[/quote]

Mold can make people feel sick, but normally it&#039;s not something that happens right away.   It is usually more from chronic exposure, except in very extreme circumstances.

Let me just ask:  Do you worry about enviornmental health hazards a lot?   Do you think often about air quality and worry that your location will make you ill? 

I bet you do.


[quote comment=&quot;14375&quot;]
I hope one day that you may be able to understand or see for yourself what he is talking about. I use a cell phone. Do I really like it? No  Does my ear feel weird sometimes after a lengthy time on the phone? Yes - but like an idiot, I use it anyway ...for the convenience while being ignorant to the health issues at stake.[/quote]

If your ear feels weird, it&#039;s likely from being pressed against the speaker.





[quote comment=&quot;14375&quot;]Maybe all of you who are condemning Arthur should read a bit more about the environment that we live in and the technology that we have out there...hazardous or not? [/quote]

Oh don&#039;t worry about that.   I have read many many studies on this, I&#039;ve talked to some real experts in the field of radiation safety, I&#039;ve personally operated equipment and I understand the theory behind it.  I even own RF hazard meters.

Some of the visitors to this site and those who I&#039;ve met through online advocacy include people who have been directly involved in meta-analysis of RF safety studies.   Also, they were kind enough to email me PDF&#039;s of some of the bigger studies that normally I would have to pay for access to (You know who you are and thanks again.)

So really, I&#039;m not ignorant of this at all.



[quote comment=&quot;14375&quot;]
As for what Arthur looks like...he is a beautiful, non-violent person who has a lot to give. Why do you need to see a picture of him. You&#039;ve already judged the book without seeing the cover! Haven&#039;t you got anything better to do? I hope that I&#039;ve left you with alot to think about. Arthur sure has given me and everyone he meets a lifetime of things to thing about....just look at everyone here that is writing about him, go put all of these negative remarks to good use by not being so judgemental.[/quote]

You&#039;ll notice that I have a short temper for those who push around bad science and have an agenda that they consider more important than the facts.   Maybe the man has never punched anyone in the face, but his antics have caused even more aggravation and pain to the communities that have to deal with him. 


[quote comment=&quot;14375&quot;]
Do not be jealous of people that collect SS/disability benefits. Be happy that you could live and work freely unlike so many others who are restricted because of their disabilities.  [/quote]

I don&#039;t mind when people with disabilities collect benefits, if they are real disabilities.   I don&#039;t like people cheating the system with their invented conditions.   No I&#039;m not jealous, I think it&#039;s pathetic.  I don&#039;t envy that at all.   If I really wanted to be a deadbeat I could just pretend too.   I don&#039;t have any desire for that.



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I also want to thank the people that left positive and supportive comments about Arthur and others who are stricken with sensitivities. I am sure that they would appreciate your thoughtful and practical responses.  I hope that everyone reading this comes away with a bit more empathy for others in these situation. Believe me, it will make you feel more whole as a person. I know, I&#039;ve been there.[/quote]

You have my comments.   While I think this kind of thing is basically just self-centered drama-queen whining, I will give this much sympathy:   I do believe it&#039;s possible that Arthur and people like him do have a legitimate mental illness and if they do then they need to get help.   However, I think deep down they don&#039;t really want it and like the attention and victim status they get.</description>
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It is really a shame and a disrespect for other beings that there are so many of you that blasted Arthur for sensitivities that are no fault of his. To be so ignorant to the fact that we are all so unique that we may have allergies/sensitivites that differ from others  is quite sad. Just because the sensitivity may be rare in your world, doesn&#8217;t mean that is does not exist!  Believe me, I know Arthur and lived with him for many years, so I know that what he is experiencing is not &#8220;in his head.&#8221; Was it frustrating? Yes, very much so. Especially when I tried to accomodate him because of his illness and I am ashamed to say that there were times that I was angry because of his sensitivities. Who are we to judge how he feels?</p>
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<p>Allergies are real.   I am allergic to pollen and to cat dander.   Allergies are based on the body reacting to a stimuli as if it were an invader and it triggers an immune response that can include inflammation, swelling etc.   It is entirely testable and can be documented to exist.</p>
<p>Electrosensitivity is entirely fictitious.  It never manifests any kind of measurable symptoms that are anything that can&#8217;t be explained by psychosymatics.    Yes, there have been double-blind studies and this has been investigated.   This is actually not surprising because it supports the decades of research on RF fields and how they interact with living organisms.   There has never been a credible mechanism seen that would cause anything to happen other then some very slight warming of tissue, which I may add, is within the normal variations of body temperature anyway.</p>
<p>Now lets talk about &#8220;accommodation.&#8221;   Normally self-proclaimed electrosensatives claim to be sensitive to microwaves, RF fields and that kind of thing.   It&#8217;s interesting how selective they are about it.   It&#8217;s mostly the newer, more conspicuous items that get them all hot and bothered:  Wifi, cell phones and alike.   In reality these sources are tiny compared to some things that have been around for a long time.   High power UHF radios have been put on police cars since the 1950&#8217;s, microwave television transmitters go back just as far, radar guns have been around for decades and so have microwave relay telephones.</p>
<p>Actually, you can&#8217;t get away from microwave radiation.   Our bodies emit it.   Yes, that&#8217;s right/   Black body incandescence means that anything that is not cooled to near absolute zero will emit a variety of electromagnetic waves.   We emit waves which range from the low-infrared to the high microwave region.  The sun produces huge amounts of microwaves.</p>
<p>But does this bother them?  No, just the obvious, more visible and conspicuous sources like modern technical items.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another important factor to consider:  The inverse square law.  It does not jive with these claims.  The inverse square law governs how radio power density is distributed.   Basically what it boils down to is this:   Close up sources have the highest density even if they are not very powerful.  The power density drops dramatically as you move away for the first few feet or so and then as you move away it becomes less and less of a drop per a given unit of distance.</p>
<p>As a consequence of this, if something like a wifi router did bother you, you&#8217;d just have to step back a short distance to experience a very dramatic reduction in radiation.   However, the difference between standing 40 feet from it and 50 feet is negligible.</p>
<p>So if a person with self-proclaimed ES is being interviewed on TV complaining that they can&#8217;t go within a quarter mile of a cell phone tower, then something does not jive here.   The reason?   The power density from the RF-leakage from the TV camera&#8217;s oscillators is much stronger at a few feet than a cell signal is at a few hundred yards.</p>
<p>Yes, it seems counter-intuitive at first, but the fact is, if people actually were sensitive to RF fields then a person who is sensitive to a cell tower at a few hundred meters would probably be killed by a cell phone at two meters.   That&#8217;s how it works.   Distance is critical, especially with low power localized sources.</p>
<p>Yet these ES guys claim that they need to be a mile away from a cell tower yet don&#8217;t seem to mind being closer to comparatively smaller items.   It is totally inconsistent with the way things work.</p>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/arthur-firstenberg-the-jackass-in-the-foil-hat/#comment-14375"><b>Susan O. said:</b></a></p>
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<p> We do not know what goes on in his body. Just because you can not outwardly see something physical happening, doesn&#8217;t mean that it is not taking place in his body&#8230;REMEMBER THIS!
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<p>Unfortunately, the placebo effect is surprisingly strong and people can be influenced strongly by what they believe.   I don&#8217;t want to diagnose the man with whatever mental issues he has, but it is likely he believes the pains are real, or possibly he partially believes it or has some kind of sub-conscious thing going on.   </p>
<p>When it comes to human factors that can&#8217;t be measured directly, there is a way to screen out subjective interpretation.   It is known as the double-blind, placebo-controlled test.   It is done with a number of subjects who don&#8217;t know if a stimuli is real or a placebo.   It has been done here.   The results are one sided and conclusive.</p>
<p>The WHO and some other agencies took this whole thing seriously and did some in depth reviews of the scientific data.   The conclusion that it&#8217;s all in one&#8217;s head is universally agreed on.</p>
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<p>There have been times that flourescent lights have bothered me and the gases that they emit have made me feel ill, so I can understand that.
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<p>I&#8217;m inclined to think in your case that&#8217;s partially or entirely a psychotic based effect, but there is some truth to the statement that flourescent lights can cause headaches.   The older ones and some that are on their last legs can flicker at a high frequency.  This produces an effect that makes the iris have difficulty adjusting to the light levels and it can lead to headaches.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t emit any gasses.</p>
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<p>Also, I have walked into certain places(stores, old churches, moldy areas) and I have felt so weak and sick that I have had to walk out. What I am getting at here, is that we all have different sensitivities, so again I will say, don&#8217;t be so quick to judge because you never know when something may hit you out of the blue, and you just might regret what you said about Arthur.
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<p>Mold can make people feel sick, but normally it&#8217;s not something that happens right away.   It is usually more from chronic exposure, except in very extreme circumstances.</p>
<p>Let me just ask:  Do you worry about enviornmental health hazards a lot?   Do you think often about air quality and worry that your location will make you ill? </p>
<p>I bet you do.</p>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/arthur-firstenberg-the-jackass-in-the-foil-hat/#comment-14375"><b>Susan O. said:</b></a></p>
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<p>I hope one day that you may be able to understand or see for yourself what he is talking about. I use a cell phone. Do I really like it? No  Does my ear feel weird sometimes after a lengthy time on the phone? Yes &#8211; but like an idiot, I use it anyway &#8230;for the convenience while being ignorant to the health issues at stake.</p>
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<p>If your ear feels weird, it&#8217;s likely from being pressed against the speaker.</p>
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Maybe all of you who are condemning Arthur should read a bit more about the environment that we live in and the technology that we have out there&#8230;hazardous or not? </p>
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<p>Oh don&#8217;t worry about that.   I have read many many studies on this, I&#8217;ve talked to some real experts in the field of radiation safety, I&#8217;ve personally operated equipment and I understand the theory behind it.  I even own RF hazard meters.</p>
<p>Some of the visitors to this site and those who I&#8217;ve met through online advocacy include people who have been directly involved in meta-analysis of RF safety studies.   Also, they were kind enough to email me PDF&#8217;s of some of the bigger studies that normally I would have to pay for access to (You know who you are and thanks again.)</p>
<p>So really, I&#8217;m not ignorant of this at all.</p>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/arthur-firstenberg-the-jackass-in-the-foil-hat/#comment-14375"><b>Susan O. said:</b></a></p>
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<p>As for what Arthur looks like&#8230;he is a beautiful, non-violent person who has a lot to give. Why do you need to see a picture of him. You&#8217;ve already judged the book without seeing the cover! Haven&#8217;t you got anything better to do? I hope that I&#8217;ve left you with alot to think about. Arthur sure has given me and everyone he meets a lifetime of things to thing about&#8230;.just look at everyone here that is writing about him, go put all of these negative remarks to good use by not being so judgemental.</p>
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<p>You&#8217;ll notice that I have a short temper for those who push around bad science and have an agenda that they consider more important than the facts.   Maybe the man has never punched anyone in the face, but his antics have caused even more aggravation and pain to the communities that have to deal with him. </p>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/arthur-firstenberg-the-jackass-in-the-foil-hat/#comment-14375"><b>Susan O. said:</b></a></p>
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<p>Do not be jealous of people that collect SS/disability benefits. Be happy that you could live and work freely unlike so many others who are restricted because of their disabilities.  </p>
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<p>I don&#8217;t mind when people with disabilities collect benefits, if they are real disabilities.   I don&#8217;t like people cheating the system with their invented conditions.   No I&#8217;m not jealous, I think it&#8217;s pathetic.  I don&#8217;t envy that at all.   If I really wanted to be a deadbeat I could just pretend too.   I don&#8217;t have any desire for that.</p>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/arthur-firstenberg-the-jackass-in-the-foil-hat/#comment-14375"><b>Susan O. said:</b></a></p>
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<p>I also want to thank the people that left positive and supportive comments about Arthur and others who are stricken with sensitivities. I am sure that they would appreciate your thoughtful and practical responses.  I hope that everyone reading this comes away with a bit more empathy for others in these situation. Believe me, it will make you feel more whole as a person. I know, I&#8217;ve been there.</p>
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<p>You have my comments.   While I think this kind of thing is basically just self-centered drama-queen whining, I will give this much sympathy:   I do believe it&#8217;s possible that Arthur and people like him do have a legitimate mental illness and if they do then they need to get help.   However, I think deep down they don&#8217;t really want it and like the attention and victim status they get.</p>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;14375&quot;]It is really a shame and a disrespect for other beings that there are so many of you that blasted Arthur for sensitivities that are no fault of his...and on and on &lt;i&gt;ad infinitum&lt;/i&gt;[/quote]

All of you self-diagnosed &#039;sensitives&#039; do have a problem - between your ears. You are nothing more than hypochondriacs with overactive imaginations, and attention whores. Your constant mewling for sympathy makes me want to puke. The bald arrogance of demanding that the rest of us should be discommoded  to satisfy your petty whims is breathtaking to say the least.

Prove this condition exists as anything but a psychosomatic illness, in any properly designed and executed double-blind test, and I will be the first one to say I was wrong. Short of that you can all go to Hell.</description>
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It is really a shame and a disrespect for other beings that there are so many of you that blasted Arthur for sensitivities that are no fault of his&#8230;and on and on <i>ad infinitum</i></p>
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<p>All of you self-diagnosed &#8217;sensitives&#8217; do have a problem &#8211; between your ears. You are nothing more than hypochondriacs with overactive imaginations, and attention whores. Your constant mewling for sympathy makes me want to puke. The bald arrogance of demanding that the rest of us should be discommoded  to satisfy your petty whims is breathtaking to say the least.</p>
<p>Prove this condition exists as anything but a psychosomatic illness, in any properly designed and executed double-blind test, and I will be the first one to say I was wrong. Short of that you can all go to Hell.</p>
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		<description>It is really a shame and a disrespect for other beings that there are so many of you that blasted Arthur for sensitivities that are no fault of his. To be so ignorant to the fact that we are all so unique that we may have allergies/sensitivites that differ from others  is quite sad. Just because the sensitivity may be rare in your world, doesn&#039;t mean that is does not exist!  Believe me, I know Arthur and lived with him for many years, so I know that what he is experiencing is not &quot;in his head.&quot; Was it frustrating? Yes, very much so. Especially when I tried to accomodate him because of his illness and I am ashamed to say that there were times that I was angry because of his sensitivities. Who are we to judge how he feels? We do not know what goes on in his body. Just because you can not outwardly see something physical happening, doesn&#039;t mean that it is not taking place in his body...REMEMBER THIS!  There have been times that flourescent lights have bothered me and the gases that they emit have made me feel ill, so I can understand that. Also, I have walked into certain places(stores, old churches, moldy areas) and I have felt so weak and sick that I have had to walk out. What I am getting at here, is that we all have different sensitivities, so again I will say, don&#039;t be so quick to judge because you never know when something may hit you out of the blue, and you just might regret what you said about Arthur. I hope one day that you may be able to understand or see for yourself what he is talking about. I use a cell phone. Do I really like it? No  Does my ear feel weird sometimes after a lengthy time on the phone? Yes - but like an idiot, I use it anyway ...for the convenience while being ignorant to the health issues at stake. Maybe all of you who are condemning Arthur should read a bit more about the environment that we live in and the technology that we have out there...hazardous or not? As for what Arthur looks like...he is a beautiful, non-violent person who has a lot to give. Why do you need to see a picture of him. You&#039;ve already judged the book without seeing the cover! Haven&#039;t you got anything better to do? I hope that I&#039;ve left you with alot to think about. Arthur sure has given me and everyone he meets a lifetime of things to thing about....just look at everyone here that is writing about him, go put all of these negative remarks to good use by not being so judgemental. Learn and share. We all deserve a certain amount of compassion...and I did not detect that at all in most of these letters. Do not be jealous of people that collect SS/disability benefits. Be happy that you could live and work freely unlike so many others who are restricted because of their disabilities.  I also want to thank the people that left positive and supportive comments about Arthur and others who are stricken with sensitivities. I am sure that they would appreciate your thoughtful and practical responses.  I hope that everyone reading this comes away with a bit more empathy for others in these situation. Believe me, it will make you feel more whole as a person. I know, I&#039;ve been there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is really a shame and a disrespect for other beings that there are so many of you that blasted Arthur for sensitivities that are no fault of his. To be so ignorant to the fact that we are all so unique that we may have allergies/sensitivites that differ from others  is quite sad. Just because the sensitivity may be rare in your world, doesn&#8217;t mean that is does not exist!  Believe me, I know Arthur and lived with him for many years, so I know that what he is experiencing is not &#8220;in his head.&#8221; Was it frustrating? Yes, very much so. Especially when I tried to accomodate him because of his illness and I am ashamed to say that there were times that I was angry because of his sensitivities. Who are we to judge how he feels? We do not know what goes on in his body. Just because you can not outwardly see something physical happening, doesn&#8217;t mean that it is not taking place in his body&#8230;REMEMBER THIS!  There have been times that flourescent lights have bothered me and the gases that they emit have made me feel ill, so I can understand that. Also, I have walked into certain places(stores, old churches, moldy areas) and I have felt so weak and sick that I have had to walk out. What I am getting at here, is that we all have different sensitivities, so again I will say, don&#8217;t be so quick to judge because you never know when something may hit you out of the blue, and you just might regret what you said about Arthur. I hope one day that you may be able to understand or see for yourself what he is talking about. I use a cell phone. Do I really like it? No  Does my ear feel weird sometimes after a lengthy time on the phone? Yes &#8211; but like an idiot, I use it anyway &#8230;for the convenience while being ignorant to the health issues at stake. Maybe all of you who are condemning Arthur should read a bit more about the environment that we live in and the technology that we have out there&#8230;hazardous or not? As for what Arthur looks like&#8230;he is a beautiful, non-violent person who has a lot to give. Why do you need to see a picture of him. You&#8217;ve already judged the book without seeing the cover! Haven&#8217;t you got anything better to do? I hope that I&#8217;ve left you with alot to think about. Arthur sure has given me and everyone he meets a lifetime of things to thing about&#8230;.just look at everyone here that is writing about him, go put all of these negative remarks to good use by not being so judgemental. Learn and share. We all deserve a certain amount of compassion&#8230;and I did not detect that at all in most of these letters. Do not be jealous of people that collect SS/disability benefits. Be happy that you could live and work freely unlike so many others who are restricted because of their disabilities.  I also want to thank the people that left positive and supportive comments about Arthur and others who are stricken with sensitivities. I am sure that they would appreciate your thoughtful and practical responses.  I hope that everyone reading this comes away with a bit more empathy for others in these situation. Believe me, it will make you feel more whole as a person. I know, I&#8217;ve been there.</p>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;11633&quot;]This blog does not attack the science! It doesn&#039;t even MENTION the science. If you want to attack the science, go to www.microwavenews.com and try to attack that. You all are a bunch of bubbleheads.[/quote]

Oh I&#039;ve attacked the science here on several occasions on various levels of detail:  The studies done on the subject, including some of the largest controlled studies in the history epidemiology.   There have been posts talking about dialectirc heating,  eddy currents, the inverse square law, absorption rates etc etc.   Also, we get some very intelligent people in here from time to time who are professionals in wireless communications or health physicists and others who have contributed to or otherwise backed up the information.


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 If you&#039;re so certain that electromagnetic waves don&#039;t have biological effects I want you to sleep with your cell-destruction phones under your pillows - every night.[/quote]
Well, they can have biological effects at extreme levels.  Current science continues to back up what we have known ever since the first experiments with UHF all the way back in the 1920&#039;s:  If it&#039;s really powerful and very close then it can injur with burns or subsurface thermal damage.   It behaves exactly like infrared except is a bit more penitrating.  This is exactly how it would be expected to behave because it is not capable of chemical interactions and there is no hard dividing line with IR and microwaves.


By the way:  I sleep with my phone about a foot away from my head.  EVERY NIGHT.  Yes, it is in the on position.   I leave it on the nighttable to charge and incase I get a call in the morning or something.

I don&#039;t put it under my pillow because it could slip out and fall on the ground or it might be uncomfortable.   Every night I sleep with it very close to my head and turned on.   I have no concerns at all.</description>
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This blog does not attack the science! It doesn&#8217;t even MENTION the science. If you want to attack the science, go to <a href="http://www.microwavenews.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.microwavenews.com</a> and try to attack that. You all are a bunch of bubbleheads.</p>
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<p>Oh I&#8217;ve attacked the science here on several occasions on various levels of detail:  The studies done on the subject, including some of the largest controlled studies in the history epidemiology.   There have been posts talking about dialectirc heating,  eddy currents, the inverse square law, absorption rates etc etc.   Also, we get some very intelligent people in here from time to time who are professionals in wireless communications or health physicists and others who have contributed to or otherwise backed up the information.</p>
<p>quote comment=&#8221;11633&#8243;]<br />
 If you&#8217;re so certain that electromagnetic waves don&#8217;t have biological effects I want you to sleep with your cell-destruction phones under your pillows &#8211; every night.</p>
<p>Well, they can have biological effects at extreme levels.  Current science continues to back up what we have known ever since the first experiments with UHF all the way back in the 1920&#8217;s:  If it&#8217;s really powerful and very close then it can injur with burns or subsurface thermal damage.   It behaves exactly like infrared except is a bit more penitrating.  This is exactly how it would be expected to behave because it is not capable of chemical interactions and there is no hard dividing line with IR and microwaves.</p>
<p>By the way:  I sleep with my phone about a foot away from my head.  EVERY NIGHT.  Yes, it is in the on position.   I leave it on the nighttable to charge and incase I get a call in the morning or something.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t put it under my pillow because it could slip out and fall on the ground or it might be uncomfortable.   Every night I sleep with it very close to my head and turned on.   I have no concerns at all.</p>
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