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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 12:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, well I really don&#039;t know.  Both explanations are hypothetical and are not yet proven.   I tend to shoot for the most simple and obvious one, in this case that being that drinking a lot of sweet softdrinks would tend to reinforce ones taste for sweets and perhaps desensitize someone to it.  I&#039;ve experienced a similar phenomena with salt.  When I cut back on salt a lot for a while food tasted bland at first, but, after a while, going back to the way I had been made the food taste way too salty.   It&#039;s easy to get used to things.

The idea that it could stimulate insulin production might have merit too.  I really don&#039;t know, but it&#039;s not entirely unreasonable.  I don&#039;t know if it is supported by any empirical evidence, but it&#039;d be worth looking into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, well I really don&#8217;t know.  Both explanations are hypothetical and are not yet proven.   I tend to shoot for the most simple and obvious one, in this case that being that drinking a lot of sweet softdrinks would tend to reinforce ones taste for sweets and perhaps desensitize someone to it.  I&#8217;ve experienced a similar phenomena with salt.  When I cut back on salt a lot for a while food tasted bland at first, but, after a while, going back to the way I had been made the food taste way too salty.   It&#8217;s easy to get used to things.</p>
<p>The idea that it could stimulate insulin production might have merit too.  I really don&#8217;t know, but it&#8217;s not entirely unreasonable.  I don&#8217;t know if it is supported by any empirical evidence, but it&#8217;d be worth looking into.</p>
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		<title>By: Shafe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shafe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 04:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;26277&quot;]But  now they’re showing us studies that diet soda makes us even fatter than the already bad stuff![/quote]
Causality.  Can the studies conclusively demonstrate that the diet soda causes obesity, or is it just as likely that being fat makes you more likely to drink diet soda?

Above, Buzz0 suggests that the artificial sweeteners may desensitize consumers to sweetness, thereby encouraging consumption of sweeter foods in general.  I don&#039;t remember when, nor do I have any references to cite, but I remember once hearing it suggested that the taste of a sweet food may stimulate insulin production even before the sugar enters the bloodstream.  In the case of artificial sweeteners, this might result in insulin being produced when there is no actual sugar intake, leading to high insulin levels, thus low blood-sugar levels, and possibly insulin insensitivity.  Low blood sugar leads to hunger, and insulin sensitivity leads to hypoglycemia and diabetes.  

Of course, that whole hypothesis could be junk that was tossed around as part of the aspartame-is-death campaign of the 90&#039;s.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/antioxidant-soda-because-youll-buy-anything/#comment-26277"><b>antioxidant rich foods said:</b></a></p>
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But  now they’re showing us studies that diet soda makes us even fatter than the already bad stuff!</p>
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<p>Causality.  Can the studies conclusively demonstrate that the diet soda causes obesity, or is it just as likely that being fat makes you more likely to drink diet soda?</p>
<p>Above, Buzz0 suggests that the artificial sweeteners may desensitize consumers to sweetness, thereby encouraging consumption of sweeter foods in general.  I don&#8217;t remember when, nor do I have any references to cite, but I remember once hearing it suggested that the taste of a sweet food may stimulate insulin production even before the sugar enters the bloodstream.  In the case of artificial sweeteners, this might result in insulin being produced when there is no actual sugar intake, leading to high insulin levels, thus low blood-sugar levels, and possibly insulin insensitivity.  Low blood sugar leads to hunger, and insulin sensitivity leads to hypoglycemia and diabetes.  </p>
<p>Of course, that whole hypothesis could be junk that was tossed around as part of the aspartame-is-death campaign of the 90&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: antioxidant rich foods</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people  believe that “diet” soda are health drinks.  And, I hear people all the time proudly state that they eat so healthy and only drink diet soda.So let’s set the record straight…There is NO even remotely healthy about drinking diet soda. In fact, I’ve even seen several studies that showed dedicated diet soda drinkers got even FATTER than their regular soda drinking counterparts.Here’s some findings from an 8-year University of Texas study that I had read…An excerpt from the study author:What didn’t surprise us was that total soft drink use was linked to overweight and obesity,” Fowler tells Web MD. “What was surprising was when we looked at people only drinking diet soft drinks, their risk of obesity was even higher.There was a 41 percent increase in risk of being overweight for every can or bottle of diet soft drink a person consumes each day,” Fowler says.Maybe we didn’t already know how bad regular soda was for us, But  now they’re showing us studies that diet soda makes us even fatter than the already bad stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people  believe that “diet” soda are health drinks.  And, I hear people all the time proudly state that they eat so healthy and only drink diet soda.So let’s set the record straight…There is NO even remotely healthy about drinking diet soda. In fact, I’ve even seen several studies that showed dedicated diet soda drinkers got even FATTER than their regular soda drinking counterparts.Here’s some findings from an 8-year University of Texas study that I had read…An excerpt from the study author:What didn’t surprise us was that total soft drink use was linked to overweight and obesity,” Fowler tells Web MD. “What was surprising was when we looked at people only drinking diet soft drinks, their risk of obesity was even higher.There was a 41 percent increase in risk of being overweight for every can or bottle of diet soft drink a person consumes each day,” Fowler says.Maybe we didn’t already know how bad regular soda was for us, But  now they’re showing us studies that diet soda makes us even fatter than the already bad stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: drbuzz0</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 02:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vitamin B12 is critical for a number of functions in the human body.   Recent studies and surveys have determined that a higher than previously thought number of people in industrial countries may have a mild deficiency in B12.  Anyone who suspects that they may have such a deficiency or who is at risk should see their doctor about it.   If it is the case, it can be treated easily with supplements.

Low B12 can result in a depressed immune system due to low white blood cell levels.  It can also be associated with any number of other health problems.

Thankfully, while minor deficiencies may be common, very very few suffer from severe or critical deficiencies of B-12, except for a few narrow goups including diabetics, long time alcoholics and those with digestive problems.   These individuals have trouble absorbing and retaining B12.

The only healthy individuals at risk for a serious deficiency are vegans, because B12 is only found in animal products, they should be advised to take supplements or eat fortified foods.

Again, anyone who may be at risk or is concerned needs to see their doctor because it&#039;s easily remedied.  

there is no solid evidence that doses of B12 or any other vitamin at levels significantly above the nutritional requirement is beneficial in any way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vitamin B12 is critical for a number of functions in the human body.   Recent studies and surveys have determined that a higher than previously thought number of people in industrial countries may have a mild deficiency in B12.  Anyone who suspects that they may have such a deficiency or who is at risk should see their doctor about it.   If it is the case, it can be treated easily with supplements.</p>
<p>Low B12 can result in a depressed immune system due to low white blood cell levels.  It can also be associated with any number of other health problems.</p>
<p>Thankfully, while minor deficiencies may be common, very very few suffer from severe or critical deficiencies of B-12, except for a few narrow goups including diabetics, long time alcoholics and those with digestive problems.   These individuals have trouble absorbing and retaining B12.</p>
<p>The only healthy individuals at risk for a serious deficiency are vegans, because B12 is only found in animal products, they should be advised to take supplements or eat fortified foods.</p>
<p>Again, anyone who may be at risk or is concerned needs to see their doctor because it&#8217;s easily remedied.  </p>
<p>there is no solid evidence that doses of B12 or any other vitamin at levels significantly above the nutritional requirement is beneficial in any way.</p>
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		<title>By: Renaldo Sgroi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renaldo Sgroi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cleansemart.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vitamin&lt;/A&gt; B12 has been proven to reduce the risk of both heart attacks and stroke. There are many reasons besides this, though, why B12 is such an important vitamin to include in your daily diet regimen to help maintain overall good health, vitamin plays an important rols in our daily life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cleansemart.com" rel="nofollow">Vitamin</a> B12 has been proven to reduce the risk of both heart attacks and stroke. There are many reasons besides this, though, why B12 is such an important vitamin to include in your daily diet regimen to help maintain overall good health, vitamin plays an important rols in our daily life.</p>
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		<title>By: Friday wrap-up &#8211; little things &#124; Cheap Like Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friday wrap-up &#8211; little things &#124; Cheap Like Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] something seen in a refrigerator (not mine*) and the ongoing Food Rules project here, this link to an article from last year at Depleted Cranium about diet sodas - now with antioxidants! (And, unfortunately, artificial sweeteners and artificial flavors that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] something seen in a refrigerator (not mine*) and the ongoing Food Rules project here, this link to an article from last year at Depleted Cranium about diet sodas &#8211; now with antioxidants! (And, unfortunately, artificial sweeteners and artificial flavors that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Grandpa Monkey</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 17:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree this product is dumb because soda is not a health drink.

There is one good thing about soda, however.   Soda is something someone can drink at a party that is a little more appealing than water.   Soda is a good thing to provide at parties and social events that have alcohol, because it is a good alternative for those who do not want to drink or have to drive.   It is a good idea to provide softdrinks along side any alcohol so that people do not feel compelled to drink more than they feel comfortable drinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree this product is dumb because soda is not a health drink.</p>
<p>There is one good thing about soda, however.   Soda is something someone can drink at a party that is a little more appealing than water.   Soda is a good thing to provide at parties and social events that have alcohol, because it is a good alternative for those who do not want to drink or have to drive.   It is a good idea to provide softdrinks along side any alcohol so that people do not feel compelled to drink more than they feel comfortable drinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Konstantin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DV82XL are you serious? If you are too lazy too read the references what do you expect me to do?

References:

   1. Sies H. Introductory remarks. In: Sies H, ed. Oxidative stress. Orlando, FL.: Academic Press; 1985:1-7.
   2. Halliwell B, Gutteridge JMC. Free Radicals. In: Biology and Medicine. 3rd ed. London, England: Oxford University Press; 1999.
   3. Papas AM. Diet and antioxidant status. In: Papas AM, ed. Antioxidant Status, Diet, Nutrition, and Health. Boca Raton, Fla: CRC Press; 1998:89-94.
   4. Halliwell B. Antioxidants in human health and disease. Annu Rev Nutr. 1996;16:33-50.
   5. Halliwell B. Antioxidant defense mechanisms: from beginning to the end (of the beginning). Free Radic Res. 1999;31:261-272.
   6. Willcox JK, Ash SL, Catignani GL. Antioxidants and prevention of chronic disease. Crit Rev Food Sci Nutr. 2004;44:275-295.
   7. Bjelakovic G, Nikolova D, Simonetti RG, Gluud C. Antioxidant supplements for prevention of gastrointestinal cancers: a systematic review and meta-analysis. Lancet. 2004;364:1219-1228.
   8. Murphy S, West KP Jr, Greenough WB III, Cherot Katz J, Clement L. Impact of vitamin A supplementation on the incidence of infection in elderly nursing home residents: a randomized controlled trial. Age Ageing. 1992;21:435-439.
   9. Brown BG, Zhao XQ, Chait A, et al. Simvastatin and niacin, antioxidant vitamins, or the combination for the prevention of coronary disease. N Engl J Med. 2001;345: 1583-1592.
  10. Marras C, McDermott MP, Rochon PA, Tanner CM, Naglie G, Rudolph A, et al. Survival in Parkinson disease: thirteen-year follow-up of the DATATOP cohort. Neurology. 2005;64:87-93.
  11. Wright ME, Lawson KA, Weinstein SJ, Pietinen P, Taylor PR, Virtamo J, Albanes D. Higher baseline serum concentrations of vitamin E are associated with lower total and cause-specific mortality in the Alpha-Tocopherol, Beta-Carotene Cancer Prevention Study. Am J Clin Nutr. 2006 Nov;84(5):1200-7.
  12. Ito Y, Suzuki K, Ishii J, Hishida H, et al.  A population-based follow-up study on mortality from cancer or cardiovascular disease and serum carotenoids, retinol and tocopherols in Japanese inhabitants. Asian Pac J Cancer Prev. 2006 Oct-Dec;7(4):533-46.
  13. Walston J, Xue Q, Semba RD, Ferrucci L, Cappola AR, Ricks M, Guralnik J, Fried LP. Serum antioxidants, inflammation, and total mortality in older women. Am J Epidemiol. 2006 Jan 1;163(1):18-26.
  14. Jatoi A, Williams BA, Marks R, Nichols FC, Aubry MC, Wampfler J, Yang P. Exploring vitamin and mineral supplementation and purported clinical effects in patients with small cell lung cancer: results from the Mayo Clinic lung cancer cohort. Nutr Cancer. 2005;51(1):7-12.
  15. Buijsse B, Feskens EJ, Schlettwein-Gsell D, Ferry M, Kok FJ, Kromhout D, de Groot LC. Plasma carotene and alpha-tocopherol in relation to 10-y all-cause and cause-specific mortality in European elderly: the Survey in Europe on Nutrition and the Elderly, a Concerted Action (SENECA). Am J Clin Nutr. 2005 Oct;82(4):879-86.  
  16. Kirsh VA, Hayes RB, Mayne ST, Chatterjee N, Subar AF, Dixon LB, Albanes D, Andriole GL, Urban DA, Peters U; PLCO Trial. Supplemental and dietary vitamin E, beta-carotene, and vitamin C intakes and prostate cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Feb 15;98(4):245-54.
  17. Shetty PS, Breeze E, Fletcher AE. Antioxidant vitamins and mortality in older persons: findings from the nutrition add-on study to the Medical Research Council Trial of Assessment and Management of Older People in the Community. Am J Clin Nutr. 2003 Nov;78(5):999-1010.
  18. Losonczy KG, Harris TB, Havlik RJ. Vitamin E and vitamin C supplement use and risk of all-cause and coronary heart disease mortality in older persons: the Established Populations for Epidemiologic Studies of the Elderly. Am J Clin Nutr. 1996 Aug;64(2):190-6.
  19. Daviglus ML, Orencia AJ, Dyer AR, Liu K, Morris DK, Persky V, Chavez N, Goldberg J, Drum M, Shekelle RB, Stamler J. Dietary vitamin C, beta-carotene and 30-year risk of stroke: results from the Western Electric Study. Neuroepidemiology. 1997;16(2):69-77.
  20. Blot WJ, Li JY, Taylor PR, Guo W, Dawsey SM, Li B. The Linxian trials: mortality rates by vitamin-mineral intervention group.  Am J Clin Nutr. 1995 Dec;62(6 Suppl):1424S-1426S.
  21. Blot WJ, Li JY, Taylor PR, Guo W, Dawsey S, Wang GQ, Yang CS, Zheng SF, Gail M, Li GY, et al. Nutrition intervention trials in Linxian, China: supplementation with specific vitamin/mineral combinations, cancer incidence, and disease-specific mortality in the general population. J Natl Cancer Inst. 1993 Sep 15;85(18):1483-92.
  22. Fawzi WW, Msamanga GI, Spiegelman D, Wei R, Kapiga S, Villamor E, Mwakagile D, Mugusi F, Hertzmark E, Essex M, Hunter DJ. A randomized trial of multivitamin supplements and HIV disease progression and mortality. N Engl J Med. 2004 Jul 1;351(1):23-32.
  23. Rahmathullah L, Underwood BA, Thulasiraj RD, Milton RC, Ramaswamy K, Rahmathullah R, Babu G. Reduced mortality among children in southern India receiving a small weekly dose of vitamin A. N Engl J Med. 1990 Oct 4;323(14):929-35.
  24. Jatoi A, Daly BD, Kramer G, et al. A cross-sectional study of vitamin intake in postoperative non-small cell lung cancer patients. J Surg Oncol. 1998 Aug;68(4):231-6.
  25. Pastorino U, Infante M, Maioli M, Chiesa G, Buyse M, Firket P, Rosmentz N, Clerici M, Soresi E, Valente M, et al. Adjuvant treatment of stage I lung cancer with high-dose vitamin A. J Clin Oncol. 1993 Jul;11(7):1216-22.
  26. Nathens AB, Neff MJ, Jurkovich GJ, Klotz P, Farver K, Ruzinski JT, Radella F, Garcia I, Maier RV. Randomized, prospective trial of antioxidant supplementation in critically ill surgical patients. Ann Surg. 2002 Dec;236(6):814-22.
  27. http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/02/27/589608-antioxidants-dont-help-you-live-longer
  28. http://oregonstate.edu/dept/ncs/newsarch/2007/Feb07/vitaminstudy.html
  29. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/27/AR2007022700925.html</description>
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<p>References:</p>
<p>   1. Sies H. Introductory remarks. In: Sies H, ed. Oxidative stress. Orlando, FL.: Academic Press; 1985:1-7.<br />
   2. Halliwell B, Gutteridge JMC. Free Radicals. In: Biology and Medicine. 3rd ed. London, England: Oxford University Press; 1999.<br />
   3. Papas AM. Diet and antioxidant status. In: Papas AM, ed. Antioxidant Status, Diet, Nutrition, and Health. Boca Raton, Fla: CRC Press; 1998:89-94.<br />
   4. Halliwell B. Antioxidants in human health and disease. Annu Rev Nutr. 1996;16:33-50.<br />
   5. Halliwell B. Antioxidant defense mechanisms: from beginning to the end (of the beginning). Free Radic Res. 1999;31:261-272.<br />
   6. Willcox JK, Ash SL, Catignani GL. Antioxidants and prevention of chronic disease. Crit Rev Food Sci Nutr. 2004;44:275-295.<br />
   7. Bjelakovic G, Nikolova D, Simonetti RG, Gluud C. Antioxidant supplements for prevention of gastrointestinal cancers: a systematic review and meta-analysis. Lancet. 2004;364:1219-1228.<br />
   8. Murphy S, West KP Jr, Greenough WB III, Cherot Katz J, Clement L. Impact of vitamin A supplementation on the incidence of infection in elderly nursing home residents: a randomized controlled trial. Age Ageing. 1992;21:435-439.<br />
   9. Brown BG, Zhao XQ, Chait A, et al. Simvastatin and niacin, antioxidant vitamins, or the combination for the prevention of coronary disease. N Engl J Med. 2001;345: 1583-1592.<br />
  10. Marras C, McDermott MP, Rochon PA, Tanner CM, Naglie G, Rudolph A, et al. Survival in Parkinson disease: thirteen-year follow-up of the DATATOP cohort. Neurology. 2005;64:87-93.<br />
  11. Wright ME, Lawson KA, Weinstein SJ, Pietinen P, Taylor PR, Virtamo J, Albanes D. Higher baseline serum concentrations of vitamin E are associated with lower total and cause-specific mortality in the Alpha-Tocopherol, Beta-Carotene Cancer Prevention Study. Am J Clin Nutr. 2006 Nov;84(5):1200-7.<br />
  12. Ito Y, Suzuki K, Ishii J, Hishida H, et al.  A population-based follow-up study on mortality from cancer or cardiovascular disease and serum carotenoids, retinol and tocopherols in Japanese inhabitants. Asian Pac J Cancer Prev. 2006 Oct-Dec;7(4):533-46.<br />
  13. Walston J, Xue Q, Semba RD, Ferrucci L, Cappola AR, Ricks M, Guralnik J, Fried LP. Serum antioxidants, inflammation, and total mortality in older women. Am J Epidemiol. 2006 Jan 1;163(1):18-26.<br />
  14. Jatoi A, Williams BA, Marks R, Nichols FC, Aubry MC, Wampfler J, Yang P. Exploring vitamin and mineral supplementation and purported clinical effects in patients with small cell lung cancer: results from the Mayo Clinic lung cancer cohort. Nutr Cancer. 2005;51(1):7-12.<br />
  15. Buijsse B, Feskens EJ, Schlettwein-Gsell D, Ferry M, Kok FJ, Kromhout D, de Groot LC. Plasma carotene and alpha-tocopherol in relation to 10-y all-cause and cause-specific mortality in European elderly: the Survey in Europe on Nutrition and the Elderly, a Concerted Action (SENECA). Am J Clin Nutr. 2005 Oct;82(4):879-86.<br />
  16. Kirsh VA, Hayes RB, Mayne ST, Chatterjee N, Subar AF, Dixon LB, Albanes D, Andriole GL, Urban DA, Peters U; PLCO Trial. Supplemental and dietary vitamin E, beta-carotene, and vitamin C intakes and prostate cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Feb 15;98(4):245-54.<br />
  17. Shetty PS, Breeze E, Fletcher AE. Antioxidant vitamins and mortality in older persons: findings from the nutrition add-on study to the Medical Research Council Trial of Assessment and Management of Older People in the Community. Am J Clin Nutr. 2003 Nov;78(5):999-1010.<br />
  18. Losonczy KG, Harris TB, Havlik RJ. Vitamin E and vitamin C supplement use and risk of all-cause and coronary heart disease mortality in older persons: the Established Populations for Epidemiologic Studies of the Elderly. Am J Clin Nutr. 1996 Aug;64(2):190-6.<br />
  19. Daviglus ML, Orencia AJ, Dyer AR, Liu K, Morris DK, Persky V, Chavez N, Goldberg J, Drum M, Shekelle RB, Stamler J. Dietary vitamin C, beta-carotene and 30-year risk of stroke: results from the Western Electric Study. Neuroepidemiology. 1997;16(2):69-77.<br />
  20. Blot WJ, Li JY, Taylor PR, Guo W, Dawsey SM, Li B. The Linxian trials: mortality rates by vitamin-mineral intervention group.  Am J Clin Nutr. 1995 Dec;62(6 Suppl):1424S-1426S.<br />
  21. Blot WJ, Li JY, Taylor PR, Guo W, Dawsey S, Wang GQ, Yang CS, Zheng SF, Gail M, Li GY, et al. Nutrition intervention trials in Linxian, China: supplementation with specific vitamin/mineral combinations, cancer incidence, and disease-specific mortality in the general population. J Natl Cancer Inst. 1993 Sep 15;85(18):1483-92.<br />
  22. Fawzi WW, Msamanga GI, Spiegelman D, Wei R, Kapiga S, Villamor E, Mwakagile D, Mugusi F, Hertzmark E, Essex M, Hunter DJ. A randomized trial of multivitamin supplements and HIV disease progression and mortality. N Engl J Med. 2004 Jul 1;351(1):23-32.<br />
  23. Rahmathullah L, Underwood BA, Thulasiraj RD, Milton RC, Ramaswamy K, Rahmathullah R, Babu G. Reduced mortality among children in southern India receiving a small weekly dose of vitamin A. N Engl J Med. 1990 Oct 4;323(14):929-35.<br />
  24. Jatoi A, Daly BD, Kramer G, et al. A cross-sectional study of vitamin intake in postoperative non-small cell lung cancer patients. J Surg Oncol. 1998 Aug;68(4):231-6.<br />
  25. Pastorino U, Infante M, Maioli M, Chiesa G, Buyse M, Firket P, Rosmentz N, Clerici M, Soresi E, Valente M, et al. Adjuvant treatment of stage I lung cancer with high-dose vitamin A. J Clin Oncol. 1993 Jul;11(7):1216-22.<br />
  26. Nathens AB, Neff MJ, Jurkovich GJ, Klotz P, Farver K, Ruzinski JT, Radella F, Garcia I, Maier RV. Randomized, prospective trial of antioxidant supplementation in critically ill surgical patients. Ann Surg. 2002 Dec;236(6):814-22.<br />
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		<title>By: DV82XL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DV82XL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;15455&quot;]Some people like DV82XL  are too lazy to check the links which have the references to peer reviewed medical journals. Sorry DV82XL I&#039;m not willing to do the work for you. All you have to do is check the references in those links. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll recognize some of the journals.[/quote]

Well you see it doesn&#039;t count when you are referencing these studies to show that they are in error when they do not support your contentions as in the link &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lef.org/featured-articles/consumer_alert_020307.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Another Flawed Attack against Antioxidants&lt;/a&gt;. 

The list of publications was copied verbatim from the February 28, 2007 edition of JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association) which thoroughly discredited the notion that mega doses of these supplements had significant benefit.

If there is one thing I hate more than a spammer, its someone that treats me like an idiot. You have provided nothing to support your contentions except an attack from a website selling these products on a ligitimate journal disagreeing with your nonsence.</description>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://depletedcranium.com/antioxidant-soda-because-youll-buy-anything/#comment-15455"><b>Konstantin said:</b></a></p>
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Some people like DV82XL  are too lazy to check the links which have the references to peer reviewed medical journals. Sorry DV82XL I&#8217;m not willing to do the work for you. All you have to do is check the references in those links. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll recognize some of the journals.</p>
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<p>Well you see it doesn&#8217;t count when you are referencing these studies to show that they are in error when they do not support your contentions as in the link <a href="http://www.lef.org/featured-articles/consumer_alert_020307.htm" rel="nofollow">Another Flawed Attack against Antioxidants</a>. </p>
<p>The list of publications was copied verbatim from the February 28, 2007 edition of JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association) which thoroughly discredited the notion that mega doses of these supplements had significant benefit.</p>
<p>If there is one thing I hate more than a spammer, its someone that treats me like an idiot. You have provided nothing to support your contentions except an attack from a website selling these products on a ligitimate journal disagreeing with your nonsence.</p>
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		<title>By: Konstantin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Konstantin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes there are benefits to dose larger than the FDA recommendations. Check the links. It&#039;s not that hard and they are a non-profit organization. They make supplements and do research and clinical trials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes there are benefits to dose larger than the FDA recommendations. Check the links. It&#8217;s not that hard and they are a non-profit organization. They make supplements and do research and clinical trials.</p>
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